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Post by Mr Stabby on Jun 21, 2023 16:49:12 GMT
Looking at pictures of the launch vehicle thing there are a number of different ways in which a minor error during the launch procedure could cause critical damage. The Challenger rocket had an unscheduled disassembly because of something silly like an o-ring. It could have been a similar story with this dodgy submarine contraption. It does seem odd that there is no distress flare or tether system. Maybe they were all suicidal and it was organised. It may well have been theoretically safe to operate at that depth on the drawing board, but for how many pressurisation cycles? I believe passenger aircraft are designed for 10,000 cycles but the pressures involved at +35,000 feet are tiny compared to -12,000 feet. Apparently more people have gone into outer space than to the depths which Titanic lies at. I'm amazed this half-arsed Del Trotter type organisation was ever allowed to operate this death trap carrying paying passengers.
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Post by Jim on Jun 21, 2023 17:00:07 GMT
Shame the Greeks couldn't put in even half the effort to rescue the several hundred women and children in that trawler.
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Post by on Jun 21, 2023 17:02:55 GMT
It is the women and children who arrr the problem when it comes to boats.
They have a habit of multiplying.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Jun 21, 2023 17:12:11 GMT
Shame the Greeks couldn't put in even half the effort to rescue the several hundred women and children in that trawler. In fairness, you'd have to apportion most blame to the Master for that.
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Post by Aloysius on Jun 21, 2023 23:13:11 GMT
In fact the bow wave theory was fully investigated by experiment with the Herald's sister-ship, both in deep water and in the relative shallows of the harbour. The results were conclusive. You don''t come anywhere near even beginning to understand the subject. What, precisely do you mean by - ". . . the bow wave theory was fully investigated by experiment" ? Do you know how or why flattish bottomed slow displacement vessels dive or squat, . . or the circumstances and conditions that can cause it to happen very quickly and without warning ? You are, as usual, talking from your arse. If you knew the first thing about the incident, you would be aware that the failure to re-adjust the forward ballast tanks following loading of the upper car deck left the bow abnormally low in the water, with consequences even a bloody idiot such as yourself can probably now imagine. What I mean by 'fully investigated...etc' was that, for the third time, the identical sister-ship of the Herald was used to re-create the conditions under which the Herald sank, although I expect the bow doors were kept shut during that test. It would be best if you fucked off. And took some pills when you got there.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Jun 22, 2023 8:45:48 GMT
Looks like it's Game Over for the sub today. Even if they knew exactly where it was, I don't think there would be enough time remaining to raise it to the surface before the oxygen runs out and as I understand it, it is lost in total darkness somewhere in a huge debris field, and there is no equipment on site capable of raising it.
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Post by on Jun 22, 2023 8:47:36 GMT
And it is between 0 and 3 degrees Celsius.
One hopes for the sake of the occupants that there was a failure early on and they died instantly.
It would be a bit nasty to survive all those 96 hours.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Jun 22, 2023 9:24:40 GMT
I think everybody involved with the rescue knows that something catastrophic happened during the descent when it lost contact with the mother ship, but feel they have to be seen to be doing something. Quite why it couldn't have a sonar beacon fitted that would "ping" even in the event of this to aid location is beyond me.
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Post by Aloysius on Jun 22, 2023 9:28:30 GMT
Attaching a cable beforehand seems an obvious one too. At $800,000 dollars for each descent you would think they could afford it.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Jun 22, 2023 9:55:31 GMT
"In a press conference on Tuesday afternoon, US Coast Guard Captain Jamie Frederick confirmed that the vessel has“40 to 41 hours” of oxygen supply left, meaning it is expected to run out by 5.30am ET (10.30am GMT) on Thursday".
Add an hour for BST and they have around 30 minutes of oxygen left now.
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Post by kris on Jun 22, 2023 10:02:04 GMT
I’m surprised our resident ex-spurt hasn’t been telling them what to do.
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Post by on Jun 22, 2023 10:06:44 GMT
One wonders how long the search will continue and who is funding it.
Presumably as there were some very wealthy people in the cylinder their estates could fund the costs rather than it being borne by taxpayers or charities.
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Post by Aloysius on Jun 22, 2023 11:31:39 GMT
I’m surprised our resident ex-spurt hasn’t been telling them what to do. But you can expect a diatribe on what went wrong.
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Post by on Jun 22, 2023 11:39:41 GMT
It would be an interesting way for a dodgy businessman with massive fraud and/or tax problems to fake their own death. Kill the other occupants, kill the electronics then float the thing get your team to open the lid then sink it again. Pay the team (dodgy fishermen) a lot of gold then fuck off and live the dream somewhere nice. What's the chances if it is ever found there are only 3 bodies in it
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Post by Aloysius on Jun 22, 2023 11:48:19 GMT
It would be an interesting way for a dodgy businessman with massive fraud and/or tax problems to fake their own death. Kill the other occupants, kill the electronics then float the thing get your team to open the lid then sink it again. Pay the team (dodgy fishermen) a lot of gold then fuck off and live the dream somewhere nice. What's the chances if it is ever found there are only 3 bodies in it More than you think. Suffocating to death must be a horrible way to go. But the victims will have passed into unconsciousness before then so I suppose that's a blessing.
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