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Post by dogless on Oct 10, 2023 7:19:36 GMT
New steel doors done. Currently (for the winter) we have a foam pad to provide insulation. Next year I plan to line the doors out but not being a d.i.y. type I am wondering if those who have done this type of work could advise. I intend to buy white oak panels, seal them with multiple layers of varnish, and secure them with stainless steel screws and some kind of adhesive/sealant. Any decoration we then choose can be fixed to this base once we have chosen. Does that sound okay ? Rog
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Post by Aloysius on Oct 10, 2023 7:54:23 GMT
Seems a fair plan. However...I would try to avoid using screws (no holes through doors) and for glue my favourite is always epoxy resin. Use clamps to ensure a good bond. The interesting part is security. Whatever you decide, I would suggest it has to be likely to withstand an attempt to open them with a crowbar, and the weak link will be the wooden liners to which you will have fixed your security bolts and whatnot. So, my cunning plan would be to weld on some nuts to the inside of the doors to which something can be screwed. The tricky bit is ensuring the holes one would have to drill through the wood line up nicely. Careful marking-out is important. One other point... order the liners to be a tad over-size (say 3mm) to allow a degree of error when fitting. When the glue has set, plane the edges to give a perfect fit. Something like this (block plane) is ideal for the job. ETA My fave varnish is Rustins Yacht Varnish. Dilute the first coat with white spirit (2 parts spirit to 1 part varnish) to ensure good penetration.
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Post by dogless on Oct 10, 2023 7:59:37 GMT
Thanks for that.
The drop down lid secures the doors so no other work needed in that regard.
Rog
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Post by Aloysius on Oct 10, 2023 10:12:47 GMT
If you say so. Personally I wouldn't like to rely solely on that one feature.
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Post by β on Oct 10, 2023 10:19:47 GMT
One my best narrow boat the lining of the doors was secured using countersunk setscrews.
Each hole was drilled through wood and steel with a 4.2mm drill then the hole in the steel was tapped with an M5x0.8 (standard) thread. Hole in wood then enlarged to 5mm to take the setscrews. Screw them in get the wood nicely onto the metal and grind orf the ends level with the steel on the outside then paint it.
Yes the
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Post by Mr Stabby on Oct 10, 2023 10:22:55 GMT
I'd like centre side doors. Don't imagine it would be cheap though.
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Post by Aloysius on Oct 10, 2023 10:34:04 GMT
Also to retro-fit side doors I imagine you would need to first remove all the linings around it so potentially quite disruptive.
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Post by Telemachus on Oct 10, 2023 11:06:55 GMT
If you say so. Personally I wouldn't like to rely solely on that one feature. But there is no point in having very secure side doors for a boat that has βbus windowsβ that are easy to smash and climb in through.
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Post by Aloysius on Oct 10, 2023 11:14:50 GMT
If you say so. Personally I wouldn't like to rely solely on that one feature. But there is no point in having very secure side doors for a boat that has βbus windowsβ that are easy to smash and climb in through. I loathe those top-opener windows and not just for the easily smashable aspect. But I suspect most break-ins on boats occur through the more conventional door. To be sure, portholes are a far better option in every way.
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Post by Telemachus on Oct 10, 2023 11:16:23 GMT
But there is no point in having very secure side doors for a boat that has βbus windowsβ that are easy to smash and climb in through. To be sure, portholes are a far better option in every way. Far better if you hate seeing the surrounding countryside, enjoy living in gloom and want to get up to all sorts of dodgy activities without being seen.
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Post by β on Oct 10, 2023 11:24:39 GMT
Portholes in the back half windows in thr front half. Sorted. Like this (It doesn't look so fresh after me owning it for 15 yars) but still good. This was when moored at Tod.
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Post by Aloysius on Oct 10, 2023 11:35:08 GMT
To be sure, portholes are a far better option in every way. Far better if you hate seeing the surrounding countryside, enjoy living in gloom and want to get up to all sorts of dodgy activities without being seen. There's a solution if you want to see what's outside. I'm more in favour of a skylight (can't think of the boaty term). Makes a huge difference to the ambience. And what a man does in the privacy of his own attic is his business.
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New doors
Oct 10, 2023 12:22:21 GMT
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Post by dogless on Oct 10, 2023 12:22:21 GMT
Security's never been a major concern.
We were burgled (as was a nearby boat with portholes) and they simply smashed a window leaving the top opening part in tact.
If you're wrong place at the wrong time stuff can happen.
The lid holds the doors closed, and the lid is secured by four bolts.
It's not a concern but thanks for the thought.
Rog
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Post by fi on Oct 10, 2023 12:27:02 GMT
Dogless comes from a part of the world where it is ok to park your scooter on the pavement outside a trendy coffee shop, down south we have to put up with mobility scooters parked on the pavement outside Greggs....
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New doors
Oct 10, 2023 12:33:53 GMT
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Post by β on Oct 10, 2023 12:33:53 GMT
If you're wrong place at the wrong time stuff can Rog Surely it should be 'the wrong place af the right time'.
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