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Post by on Oct 24, 2023 13:10:52 GMT
I'm interested to hear opinions on the story in the news about the 'sanctioned suicide' forum. It is a popular forum. It is graphic and detailed with people going into quite deep description of how to end your life in a convenient and 'comfortable' way. Do people think this is unacceptable, an undesirable but inevitable part of the evolution of information availability or that its ok? I'm in the 'it is ok' camp but I do have a very unusual family history of multiple suicides. I tend to think people have the right to get orf the train when they want to but it ain't easy for the others afterwards ! Just interested to know what others think. It was this story www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-67082224
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Post by fi on Oct 24, 2023 13:28:07 GMT
I'd rather everyone spent more time on helping people live happier lives.
Yes I'd ban the website just because it seems to encourage suicide rather than offer help (based upon the info available, I have no intention of searching for visiting the site).
Not totally against suicide but think better help should be offered as the first priority, if that really can't help then a formal process should follow if suicide is allowed.
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Post by on Oct 24, 2023 13:37:34 GMT
This opinion is based on the assumption that life is by definition a Good Thing.
This might not actually be the case.
Take being old as an example.
Lots of people will have seen their parents and other people they care about getting old, becoming infirm, relying on medication to stay alive, hobbling around in pain and having a generally unsatisfactory time.
There is quite a logical argument for steering away from this and taking control rather than allowing the system to wrest control from you.
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Post by Jim on Oct 24, 2023 13:51:08 GMT
While you may be a nominally responsible adult, young people with whatever issues may make use of the info without seeking appropriate help, same with Annie Rexicks websites. People need support, not a readily available ending. By the time one is old one no doubt has a stock of appropriate medicines in the cupboard.
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Post by fi on Oct 24, 2023 14:01:31 GMT
This opinion is based on the assumption that life is by definition a Good Thing. You are putting words into my mouth, I actually think that under certain circumstances life should be allowed to 'ebb away in a painless way' far more often than which is allowed under current laws.
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Post by on Oct 24, 2023 14:03:44 GMT
Yes sorry about that.
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Post by on Oct 24, 2023 14:05:25 GMT
While you may be a nominally responsible adult, young people with whatever issues may make use of the info without seeking appropriate help, same with Annie Rexicks websites. People need support, not a readily available ending. By the time one is old one no doubt has a stock of appropriate medicines in the cupboard. I'm glad you used the word 'nominally' !
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Post by Aloysius on Oct 24, 2023 15:28:34 GMT
Can't help but feel that at least some of the people professing suicidal thoughts don't really mean it but being surrounded by an entire community of people saying it's a good thing may not be the most helpful environment.
I can understand somebody facing a long, painful and inevitable death wishing to cut to the chase, as it were. Less so with an instance of an unhappy teen.
I wonder if there will be a rush of people who have undergone gender reassignment surgery exhibiting regret before too long? Dead is harder to come back from.
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Post by on Oct 24, 2023 16:55:24 GMT
Having had a quick read of some threads I have come to the conclusion it os probably mostly attention seekers.
I suppose it is dangerous if kids get too interested but then a taboo subject is always going to be dangerous.
If I ever come across someone about to kill themselves I will ask 'can I just stay and watch?'.
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Post by Aloysius on Oct 24, 2023 17:53:57 GMT
Wow.
Anybody got anything to top that? Confessions of necrophilia maybe?
Didn't think so. Zany Andrew re-states his credentials. He is the zaniest.
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Post by on Oct 24, 2023 18:04:21 GMT
I bet they wouldn't jump.
I could be a lifesaver.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Oct 24, 2023 18:34:07 GMT
My cause of death will quite likely be suicide. Not because of depression but simply a desire to dally no longer at life's party. There would have to be a deterioration in quality of life and an increase in pain before it becomes the optimum action but if I decide to then why not? It's my life.
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Post by on Oct 24, 2023 18:35:23 GMT
This thread must be quite funny ! Botched jobs no good. it is a silly topic I guess it could bring out some classic humour. ctb=catch the bus American I guess.
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Post by Jim on Oct 25, 2023 7:47:55 GMT
I bet they wouldn't jump. I could be a lifesaver. You could sing an encouraging ditty
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Post by on Oct 25, 2023 9:12:15 GMT
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