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Post by on Mar 6, 2024 11:16:53 GMT
Perhaps partaking of a cigarette should be cigaretting and a joint would be jointing.
When doing my intensive advanced Latin course some of the boys became amused about the word coniunx.
We debated whether the Romans may have used this word to describe cannabis cigarettes.
Salve Caesar. Visne coniunx?
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Post by Telemachus on Mar 6, 2024 11:36:03 GMT
You will note that I wrote 'To vape is a verb' not 'vape is a verb'. I did so note. It was fascinating and highly relevant to the topic at hand.
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Post by on Mar 6, 2024 11:39:05 GMT
Thank you for confirming.
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Post by brummieboy on Mar 6, 2024 11:47:41 GMT
We were on our way down to London when the smoking ban was due to be introduced, and went into a Pub for a meal the night before the day. It was full of individuals who were staging a last day protest and you could barely see the room. Needless to say we exited immediately. The rise of vaping does not give anyone a sense of comfort in public spaces, as many places allow it without any restrictions. In a snooker/pool/darts establishment I visit, there can be an ominous cloud gathered under the table lights, and the sickly smells cling to clothing just like tobacco. As regards the safeguards for children and young adults who have never smoked, the fact that the flavours are all aimed at them speaks volumes about the companies marketing them. It is like the phase of alcopops in the 90's that seduced many ypungsters into excessive consumption.
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Post by on Mar 6, 2024 11:51:36 GMT
Sad isn't it.
The kids flush them down the lavatory at school because they are not allowed.
Difficult problem to solve it needs education input from the parents really but I guess a lot of parents probably don't give a shit about it.
I'm sure disposable vapes are on the list of items found in monster fatbergs blocking up sewers.
What is the world coming to ?
Its an outrage. In a number of different ways.
I am a little bit intrigued as to where the kids are actually getting the things from. There is a supply line somewhere.
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Post by fi on Mar 6, 2024 11:56:05 GMT
I get my vapes from the NHS, yep tax the NHS and cut NI that is supposed to fund it... The caring Cons...
I'll now withdraw into my hovel!
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Post by Clinton Cool on Mar 6, 2024 12:01:55 GMT
My point was you can match link for link. Some say it's harmful, some say not ... either way it's optional so a fair target for heavy tax. Rog The point is that the substance your link specifically referred to as harmful is banned in the U.K. So it's not relevant. There's no evidence that it's harmful but plenty of evidence that millions of people have ceased a habit which leads to an early death in 50% of those who indulge, because of the groundbreaking health initiative that was e cigarettes.
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Post by Clinton Cool on Mar 6, 2024 12:03:45 GMT
I get my vapes from the NHS, yep tax the NHS and cut NI that is supposed to fund it... The caring Cons...
I'll now withdraw into my hovel!
How do you manage to get your vapes on the NHS?
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Post by Telemachus on Mar 6, 2024 12:03:48 GMT
My point was you can match link for link. Some say it's harmful, some say not ... either way it's optional so a fair target for heavy tax. Rog The point is that the substance your link specifically referred to as harmful is banned in the U.K. So it's not relevant. There's no evidence that it's harmful but plenty of evidence that millions of people have ceased a habit which leads to an early death in 50% of those who indulge, because of the groundbreaking health initiative that was e cigarettes. Lots of stuff that is banned in the uk is still for sale in the uk.
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Post by fi on Mar 6, 2024 12:08:30 GMT
I get my vapes from the NHS, yep tax the NHS and cut NI that is supposed to fund it... The caring Cons...
I'll now withdraw into my hovel!
How do you manage to get your vapes on the NHS? It is part of a scheme to help lifelong smokers quit, won't last for ever but it helps just like patches were/are funded by the NHS for a period of time.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Mar 6, 2024 12:09:08 GMT
My point was you can match link for link. Some say it's harmful, some say not ... either way it's optional so a fair target for heavy tax. Rog The point is that the substance your link specifically referred to as harmful is banned in the U.K. So it's not relevant. There's no evidence that it's harmful but plenty of evidence that millions of people have ceased a habit which leads to an early death in 50% of those who indulge, because of the groundbreaking health initiative that was e cigarettes. Gubbermint is having to deal with the Law of Unintended Consequences.
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Post by Clinton Cool on Mar 6, 2024 12:12:40 GMT
The point is that the substance your link specifically referred to as harmful is banned in the U.K. So it's not relevant. There's no evidence that it's harmful but plenty of evidence that millions of people have ceased a habit which leads to an early death in 50% of those who indulge, because of the groundbreaking health initiative that was e cigarettes. Lots of stuff that is banned in the uk is still for sale in the uk. For sure. My friend here is currently putting together a container, probably 25% of it is dodgy, one way or another. Mostly copyright breaches. Football team colours and emblems on mini surfboards, that kind of thing. I'm not sure that rules regarding chemicals are so widely disregarded. What the benefit of that might be. The chemical in question was an ingredient of some flavours, particularly the sweeter ones. They can successfully be made without it. There's no benefit to a manufacturer to continue to use the chemical when by doing so, they are deliberately limiting their market. A bit like lead, in paint, I guess.
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Post by on Mar 6, 2024 12:15:08 GMT
There is a benefit if it is a waste product which is awkward to get rid of.
I am a little intrigued as to why Nitrous Oxide is used for whipping cream. Is there a surplus of NO from another industrial process making it very cheap?
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Post by Clinton Cool on Mar 6, 2024 12:15:24 GMT
How do you manage to get your vapes on the NHS? It is part of a scheme to help lifelong smokers quit, won't last for ever but it helps just like patches were/are funded by the NHS for a period of time. Oh right when I did that I was limited to patches and a terrible drug, xyban (spelling?). It's good to see that the NHS have moved on to the most effective and non-harmful treatment. Anyway it will be interesting to see how they tax this. The two main ingredients of vapes are food products, impossible to tax. Taxing flavourings would also be difficult. They could simply be labelled as something else then supplied for diy manufacture, along with the food products. The nicotine could be taxed I suppose, by strength per ml. That would be an incentive for me to drop the nicotine, make my own without it and pay no tax. Not a bad thing maybe.
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Post by on Mar 6, 2024 12:17:19 GMT
How do you manage to get your vapes on the NHS? It is part of a scheme to help lifelong smokers quit, won't last for ever but it helps just like patches were/are funded by the NHS for a period of time. Oh hi ! Long time no see.
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