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Post by Mr Stabby on Mar 23, 2024 19:19:10 GMT
The ladies who run the post office in Brinklow are very pleasant, aren't they Mr Stabby ? Yes, lovely, and they go way beyond what they are obliged to do with the Poste Restante service, it's only supposed to be for letters but I get everything I order on the internet (apart from very large or heavy items which get sent to me at work) delivered there and when I've apologised for the huge mound of parcels waiting for me sometimes, they just say "Oh, don't worry about it, get anything you need sent here". I always do my cash withdrawals there rather than an ATM because they get a fee for that so I try to help them out a bit.
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Post by Tony Dunkley on Mar 30, 2024 21:09:18 GMT
Brinklow Slip
- or - How to turn a comparatively minor occurrence into a major long-term stoppage Landslips of similar proportions to the current one in the Brinklow Cutting have been commonplace, in my personal experience and to my knowledge, for at least the last 60 years. Less so the further back in time you go, . . mainly because the trees were smaller back then, and so applied less rotating/slipping force to the areas of the cutting sides around the roots. C&RT, and their equally clueless contractors, are setting about this landslip with their customary long drawn out song and dance methods, and making some very serious mistakes over getting the canal open to boat traffic again following this relatively minor, and if you know how, comparatively easy to deal with landslip. In the days when the North Oxford still saw regular commercial traffic, . . and was maintained and run by British Waterways, an organisation with many of its own shortcomings, but a bit more akin to a real navigation authority than the clowns in charge these days, . . a slip such as the present one in Brinklow Cutting would generally delay traffic for no more than around half a day at most. There's a right way and a wrong way to deal with slips like this present one in the Brinklow Cutting. A lot of useful lessons in doing it the right way were learned from mistakes made with the Saddington Slip many years ago, . . which, going from what I recall being told, from the early 1960's through to the early 1970's, by other working and ex-boatmen, BWB lengthsmen, other British Waterways company men, the two BWB Section/Length Foremen, and BWB's Leicester Section Inspector, Matt Mortimer, . . first began causing really serious recurring problems in the late 1930's or early 1940's.Removing too much slip material/spoil from the navigation channel at the site of a landslip too soon after the slip, combined with also removing the main trunks and root systems from where they all finish up immediately after a slip, is a really big mistake, . . and is almost certain to lead to further slippage and movement. The weight/mass of the main parts of the fallen trees must, initially, be moved out of the way and is repositioned only as much as is absolutely necessary, ie. only what is needed in order to open up a temporary minimal width and depth navigation channel past the slip site. Leaving as much as possible of the slip material/spoil, . . plus most of the weight/bulk of the fallen trees, all in situ at first, has the beneficial effect of allowing the slip to naturally stabilize itself to the greatest possible extent, . . whilst navigation resumes via a short length of minimal depth/width channel through the slip site. This way of dealing with slips such as this leaves the whole site/area still in a mess that all needs clearing up afterwards, . . but it works, it's practical, it's proven and above all, it's safe, both for those working on site, and the boats and the people aboard passing through after re-opening, . . and it gets the navigation open again in a matter of hours. The cutting up and removal of the trees already done in Brinklow Cutting is absolutely the wrong way to go about this. All that has been achieved by what's been done so far, and what is proposed next, is to turn the possibility of further slippage at the same spot into what amounts to almost an absolute certainty. What should, and what WOULD, be happening under a responsible and competent navigation authority, is that the navigation is re-opened by the means described above, with appropriate signage clearly warning of the serious ground instability throughout the whole length of the cutting, . . and the consequential very high risk of further similar slips occurring, at ANY time and without ANY warning.
An urgent program of work to reduce or eliminate the massive destabilizing forces from the trees on the sides of the cutting by means of extensive lopping, or removal of all the largest/heaviest overhanging trees along the whole length of the cutting, MUST then commence as a matter of urgency, and without any delay whatsoever.
Pleasure boaters who use, have used, or intend to use the North Oxford in the future should NOT be under any illusions. Years of joint BWB/C&RT neglect of essential tree maintenance, lopping, and growth/size control, has left Brinklow Cutting in a very dangerous state, . . along its entire length. With the high number of neglected and now very much oversized, much too weighty, overhanging trees, along the length of the cutting on both sides of the canal, and the permanently wet unstable ground they're all standing and growing in, . . it is potentially a very dangerous place to be, whether walking through or boating through, . . irrespective of how much recent rainfall there may or may not have been. If nothing is done about all the oversized, overhanging trees that haven't yet fallen across the cutting, but could do without warning at any time, they're just going to keep coming down, . . and bringing more sizeable, potentially very dangerous, landslips full of yet more honking great overgrown trees down with them, . . with ever increasing regularity ! The navigation should have been re-opened to boat traffic in the way described above, . . moving and clearing the absolute minimum of slip material and tree debris from only the navigation channel itself. Everything on the towpath should have been left temporarily undisturbed, . . left to settle and stabilise itself, to whatever extent it can, under the influence of gravity, and its own bulk/mass and natural tendency to inertia. Top priority MUST then be given over IMMEDIATELY to - as referred to above - lopping and/or felling, as necessary, all of those very much oversized, much too weighty, overhanging trees, along the length of the cutting on both sides of the canal. They are all standing and growing in permanently wet unstable ground, and any or all of them could start moving at any time, without warning, triggering more landslips when they do.
Put simply, . . C&RT are getting this very wrong. Top priority, after re-opening the canal, with the absolute minimal width and depth of navigation channel passing through the slip site, should, and MUST, be the prevention of further landslips, . . NOT the cosmetic clearing and tidying up of this one, . . or re-opening the towpath, . . or dredging the canal in the cutting and the navigation channel back to its full width and depth. The above post has been 'bumped'. This is due entirely to continuing uncalled for responses from kris, metanoia and others. This last response comes after a prolonged period of uncalled for responses amounting to internet stalking by kris, metanoia and others, in collusion with Vince ' Mr Stabby' Coventon - a malicious psychopath known to the Police, with a record of internet stalking that has recently included publishing confidential personal information, on the internet, contrary to Data Protection Legislation, and calculated to compromise other named individual's privacy and safety. www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1997/40/contents
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Post by on Mar 30, 2024 21:13:23 GMT
The ladies who run the post office in Brinklow are very pleasant, aren't they Mr Stabby ? Yes, lovely, and they go way beyond what they are obliged to do with the Poste Restante service, it's only supposed to be for letters but I get everything I order on the internet (apart from very large or heavy items which get sent to me at work) delivered there and when I've apologised for the huge mound of parcels waiting for me sometimes, they just say "Oh, don't worry about it, get anything you need sent here". I always do my cash withdrawals there rather than an ATM because they get a fee for that so I try to help them out a bit. Its excellent that post offices do this sort of thing. Obviously if there are ladies they will go above and beyond for a well coiffured and elegantly presented gentleman. As I am going NFA as of tomorrow it might be worth looking at ! There are some really fit birds at post offices. Not that I am looking to engage with a female but its still a factor.
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Post by Tony Dunkley on Mar 31, 2024 7:58:24 GMT
Brinklow Slip
- or - How to turn a comparatively minor occurrence into a major long-term stoppage Landslips of similar proportions to the current one in the Brinklow Cutting have been commonplace, in my personal experience and to my knowledge, for at least the last 60 years. Less so the further back in time you go, . . mainly because the trees were smaller back then, and so applied less rotating/slipping force to the areas of the cutting sides around the roots. C&RT, and their equally clueless contractors, are setting about this landslip with their customary long drawn out song and dance methods, and making some very serious mistakes over getting the canal open to boat traffic again following this relatively minor, and if you know how, comparatively easy to deal with landslip. In the days when the North Oxford still saw regular commercial traffic, . . and was maintained and run by British Waterways, an organisation with many of its own shortcomings, but a bit more akin to a real navigation authority than the clowns in charge these days, . . a slip such as the present one in Brinklow Cutting would generally delay traffic for no more than around half a day at most. There's a right way and a wrong way to deal with slips like this present one in the Brinklow Cutting. A lot of useful lessons in doing it the right way were learned from mistakes made with the Saddington Slip many years ago, . . which, going from what I recall being told, from the early 1960's through to the early 1970's, by other working and ex-boatmen, BWB lengthsmen, other British Waterways company men, the two BWB Section/Length Foremen, and BWB's Leicester Section Inspector, Matt Mortimer, . . first began causing really serious recurring problems in the late 1930's or early 1940's.Removing too much slip material/spoil from the navigation channel at the site of a landslip too soon after the slip, combined with also removing the main trunks and root systems from where they all finish up immediately after a slip, is a really big mistake, . . and is almost certain to lead to further slippage and movement. The weight/mass of the main parts of the fallen trees must, initially, be moved out of the way and is repositioned only as much as is absolutely necessary, ie. only what is needed in order to open up a temporary minimal width and depth navigation channel past the slip site. Leaving as much as possible of the slip material/spoil, . . plus most of the weight/bulk of the fallen trees, all in situ at first, has the beneficial effect of allowing the slip to naturally stabilize itself to the greatest possible extent, . . whilst navigation resumes via a short length of minimal depth/width channel through the slip site. This way of dealing with slips such as this leaves the whole site/area still in a mess that all needs clearing up afterwards, . . but it works, it's practical, it's proven and above all, it's safe, both for those working on site, and the boats and the people aboard passing through after re-opening, . . and it gets the navigation open again in a matter of hours. The cutting up and removal of the trees already done in Brinklow Cutting is absolutely the wrong way to go about this. All that has been achieved by what's been done so far, and what is proposed next, is to turn the possibility of further slippage at the same spot into what amounts to almost an absolute certainty. What should, and what WOULD, be happening under a responsible and competent navigation authority, is that the navigation is re-opened by the means described above, with appropriate signage clearly warning of the serious ground instability throughout the whole length of the cutting, . . and the consequential very high risk of further similar slips occurring, at ANY time and without ANY warning.
An urgent program of work to reduce or eliminate the massive destabilizing forces from the trees on the sides of the cutting by means of extensive lopping, or removal of all the largest/heaviest overhanging trees along the whole length of the cutting, MUST then commence as a matter of urgency, and without any delay whatsoever.
Pleasure boaters who use, have used, or intend to use the North Oxford in the future should NOT be under any illusions. Years of joint BWB/C&RT neglect of essential tree maintenance, lopping, and growth/size control, has left Brinklow Cutting in a very dangerous state, . . along its entire length. With the high number of neglected and now very much oversized, much too weighty, overhanging trees, along the length of the cutting on both sides of the canal, and the permanently wet unstable ground they're all standing and growing in, . . it is potentially a very dangerous place to be, whether walking through or boating through, . . irrespective of how much recent rainfall there may or may not have been. If nothing is done about all the oversized, overhanging trees that haven't yet fallen across the cutting, but could do without warning at any time, they're just going to keep coming down, . . and bringing more sizeable, potentially very dangerous, landslips full of yet more honking great overgrown trees down with them, . . with ever increasing regularity ! The navigation should have been re-opened to boat traffic in the way described above, . . moving and clearing the absolute minimum of slip material and tree debris from only the navigation channel itself. Everything on the towpath should have been left temporarily undisturbed, . . left to settle and stabilise itself, to whatever extent it can, under the influence of gravity, and its own bulk/mass and natural tendency to inertia. Top priority MUST then be given over IMMEDIATELY to - as referred to above - lopping and/or felling, as necessary, all of those very much oversized, much too weighty, overhanging trees, along the length of the cutting on both sides of the canal. They are all standing and growing in permanently wet unstable ground, and any or all of them could start moving at any time, without warning, triggering more landslips when they do.
Put simply, . . C&RT are getting this very wrong. Top priority, after re-opening the canal, with the absolute minimal width and depth of navigation channel passing through the slip site, should, and MUST, be the prevention of further landslips, . . NOT the cosmetic clearing and tidying up of this one, . . or re-opening the towpath, . . or dredging the canal in the cutting and the navigation channel back to its full width and depth. The above post has been 'bumped'. This is due entirely to continuing uncalled for responses from kris, metanoia and others. This last response comes after a prolonged period of uncalled for responses amounting to internet stalking by kris, metanoia and others, in collusion with Vince ' Mr Stabby' Coventon - a malicious psychopath known to the Police, with a record of internet stalking that has recently included publishing confidential personal information, on the internet, contrary to Data Protection Legislation, and calculated to compromise other named individual's privacy and safety. www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1997/40/contents
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Post by on Mar 31, 2024 8:19:41 GMT
. I always do my cash withdrawals there rather than an ATM because they get a fee for that so I try to help them out a bit. That is interesting.
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Post by dyertribe on Mar 31, 2024 8:33:01 GMT
. I always do my cash withdrawals there rather than an ATM because they get a fee for that so I try to help them out a bit. That is interesting. I do that too, also the Post Office is excellent for paying in cheques.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Mar 31, 2024 8:37:32 GMT
I do that too, also the Post Office is excellent for paying in cheques. Rather irritatingly they can pay in cheques from most banks except Nationwide, which is who my bank is.
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Post by dyertribe on Mar 31, 2024 8:40:33 GMT
I do that too, also the Post Office is excellent for paying in cheques. Rather irritatingly they can pay in cheques from most banks except Nationwide, which is who my bank is. We used to run two Nationwide agencies, not a thing anymore but visitors to our offices would recognise our decor! I don’t have any Nationwide accounts anymore.
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Post by Tony Dunkley on Mar 31, 2024 8:48:38 GMT
FAO : Dyertripe - nobody - Mr Stabby - and anyone else continuing to post uncalled for responses amounting to internet stalking when deliberately posted in inappropriate threads/topics covering other specific unrelated subjects. www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1997/40/contents
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Post by ianali on Mar 31, 2024 8:57:07 GMT
The ladies who run the post office in Brinklow are very pleasant, aren't they Mr Stabby ? Yes, lovely, and they go way beyond what they are obliged to do with the Poste Restante service, it's only supposed to be for letters but I get everything I order on the internet (apart from very large or heavy items which get sent to me at work) delivered there and when I've apologised for the huge mound of parcels waiting for me sometimes, they just say "Oh, don't worry about it, get anything you need sent here". I always do my cash withdrawals there rather than an ATM because they get a fee for that so I try to help them out a bit. We have friends dwelling in Brinklow marina who often use this post office. They speak highly of them.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Mar 31, 2024 9:00:12 GMT
. I always do my cash withdrawals there rather than an ATM because they get a fee for that so I try to help them out a bit. That is interesting. Rural Post Offices are under threat and it would be a pain to lose the one in Brinklow as I get all my mail sent there so I guess the more paying trade they do, the less likely it is that we will lose it. www.countryside-alliance.org/resources/news/rural-post-offices-in-decline
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Post by ianali on Mar 31, 2024 9:02:33 GMT
Yep. Post offices, cash, buses..etc etc need looking after.
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Post by thebfg on Mar 31, 2024 16:50:40 GMT
I do that too, also the Post Office is excellent for paying in cheques. Rather irritatingly they can pay in cheques from most banks except Nationwide, which is who my bank is. There is a form and you can then post a cheque to a branch from the post office.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Mar 31, 2024 17:30:52 GMT
Rather irritatingly they can pay in cheques from most banks except Nationwide, which is who my bank is. There is a form and you can then post a cheque to a branch from the post office. Where do you get the form, the Post Office or the Nationwide? Having said that I so rarely have cheques to pay in nowadays that a ride to Bedduff on the Vespa is no great problem.
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Post by thebfg on Mar 31, 2024 18:13:27 GMT
I suspect nationwide
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