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Post by Jim on Apr 14, 2024 8:25:24 GMT
Of course the honourable Tories amongst the rabble will cough up for the expense incurred with all the unwarranted investigations, once she is proven innocent. The culprits and their acolytes should be prosecuted for wasting police time.
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Post by Clinton Cool on Apr 14, 2024 14:55:56 GMT
Bit of a weird one from Jim, above. He seems to wish for Labour politicians to be given a completely free pass, to act however they wish, in public life. Only private prosecutions should be possible, it seems. Any attempt at challenging the behaviour of Labour politicians through public channels should become a civil offense.
Jim, would you wish the same standards to apply to Tories, members of Reform etc?
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Post by Jim on Apr 14, 2024 15:57:31 GMT
Bit of a weird one from Jim, above. He seems to wish for Labour politicians to be given a completely free pass, to act however they wish, in public life. Only private prosecutions should be possible, it seems. Any attempt at challenging the behaviour of Labour politicians through public channels should become a civil offense. Jim, would you wish the same standards to apply to Tories, members of Reform etc? Made up tripe, rancid old guff, making things up to argue against as usual. No, I'm saying that Angela has not been proven guilty, loud shouting by Tories and faux anarchists doesn't make it so. Until that point she is innocent.
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Post by Clinton Cool on Apr 14, 2024 16:03:51 GMT
Bit of a weird one from Jim, above. He seems to wish for Labour politicians to be given a completely free pass, to act however they wish, in public life. Only private prosecutions should be possible, it seems. Any attempt at challenging the behaviour of Labour politicians through public channels should become a civil offense. Jim, would you wish the same standards to apply to Tories, members of Reform etc? Made up tripe, rancid old guff, making things up to argue against as usual. No, I'm saying that Angela has not been proven guilty, loud shouting by Tories and faux anarchists doesn't make it so. Until that point she is innocent. You said that she will be found not guilty and that the accusers should pay the bill, and be prosecuted.
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Post by Jim on Apr 14, 2024 16:07:36 GMT
Made up tripe, rancid old guff, making things up to argue against as usual. No, I'm saying that Angela has not been proven guilty, loud shouting by Tories and faux anarchists doesn't make it so. Until that point she is innocent. You said that she will be found not guilty and that the accusers should pay the bill, and be prosecuted. If she is found to be innocent then the Tories have been wasting police time to detract from their own troubles. We had the same over beergate. I see Boris and Suella are looking to split the party even more, come the election.
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Post by Clinton Cool on Apr 14, 2024 16:24:02 GMT
The 'talk on the street' evidence against Rayner is pretty clear.
You seem to want Labour politicians to be immune from prosecution.
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Post by Trina on Apr 14, 2024 19:55:52 GMT
Nothing to do with my politics(which are somewhat ambiguous these days) but she does seem to have the stench of guilt about her.
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Post by Jim on Apr 15, 2024 12:40:39 GMT
The 'talk on the street' evidence against Rayner is pretty clear. You seem to want Labour politicians to be immune from prosecution. Not at all, she is currently innocent, until proven guilty. You post as though she is already guilty, you have made up your mind pre investigation. She has said she is happy to be investigated. You should wait for that, rather than making snide remarks.
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Post by Clinton Cool on Apr 15, 2024 14:35:49 GMT
The 'talk on the street' evidence against Rayner is pretty clear. You seem to want Labour politicians to be immune from prosecution. Not at all, she is currently innocent, until proven guilty. You post as though she is already guilty, you have made up your mind pre investigation. She has said she is happy to be investigated. You should wait for that, rather than making snide remarks. Yesterday you said she will be proved innocent. I quote: 'Once she has been proved innocent'. You have made up your mind pre investigation. Angela Rayner may have said she is happy to be investigated now but previously, she was very unhappy about this. Maybe she can make her mind up?
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Post by Jim on Apr 15, 2024 14:40:55 GMT
Not at all, she is currently innocent, until proven guilty. You post as though she is already guilty, you have made up your mind pre investigation. She has said she is happy to be investigated. You should wait for that, rather than making snide remarks. Yesterday you said she will be proved innocent. I quote: 'Once she has been proved innocent'. You have made up your mind pre investigation. Angela Rayner may have said she is happy to be investigated now but previously, she was very unhappy about this. Maybe she can make her mind up? Well, that's obvious if you engage your brain. She is innocent, she will be proven innocent or guilty. You are just nit picking.
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Post by Clinton Cool on Apr 15, 2024 14:56:46 GMT
Yesterday you said she will be proved innocent. I quote: 'Once she has been proved innocent'. You have made up your mind pre investigation. Angela Rayner may have said she is happy to be investigated now but previously, she was very unhappy about this. Maybe she can make her mind up? Well, that's obvious if you engage your brain. She is innocent, she will be proven innocent or guilty. You are just nit picking. I'm not sure what 'she is innocent, she will be proven innocent or guilty' actually means.
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Post by Aloysius on Apr 15, 2024 15:06:45 GMT
It means that even if she found to be innocent as in not guilty it won't stop you from claiming otherwise till the fucking cows come home by themselves.
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Post by Clinton Cool on Apr 15, 2024 15:09:31 GMT
It means that even if she found to be innocent as in not guilty it won't stop you from claiming otherwise till the fucking cows come home by themselves. It doesn't mean that by following any kind of logic.
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Post by Aloysius on Apr 15, 2024 15:20:24 GMT
It means that even if she found to be innocent as in not guilty it won't stop you from claiming otherwise till the fucking cows come home by themselves. It doesn't mean that by following any kind of logic. Well it's never been any kind of obstacle before now
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Post by Jim on Apr 15, 2024 15:34:31 GMT
Well, that's obvious if you engage your brain. She is innocent, she will be proven innocent or guilty. You are just nit picking. I'm not sure what 'she is innocent, she will be proven innocent or guilty' actually means. I understood that principle in primary skule.
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