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Post by kris on Mar 29, 2024 16:50:55 GMT
As in the title.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Mar 29, 2024 16:54:14 GMT
Not really sure what the point you are making is. There are lots of boaters and they are not going to have identical views on subjects, any more than ping-pong players or people with size 10 feet.
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Post by Aloysius on Mar 29, 2024 17:24:26 GMT
Have to agree with the previous comment. There are plenty of smug self-satisfied cunts who delight in news of the other guy getting fucked over. They were here long before CRT showed up and some of them even contribute to TB.
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Post by Jim on Mar 29, 2024 17:38:53 GMT
Its not the majority of the boating community, if there ever is or was a coherent group, it's those who don't wish to pay their share who are causing the division.
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Post by on Mar 29, 2024 18:00:42 GMT
At the end of the day the function of the navigation authority is to be a navigation authority. The clue is in the wording.
The CRT have to deal with all sorts of different types of customer and also quite a lot of occupiers with attitude problems.
I suspect if one were to gain knowledge around the owner of every Boat on the canals one would find that it is a tiny fraction who ever have any problems and if they do have problems they are very likely to know why.
Its not appropriate for a navigation authority to pander to the entitled squatter attitude problem. That is not part of the function.
Nobody in fact has a right to use canal land for living on unless they are renting it or own it and have planning permission.
People who are using canal land for living on and then moaning about it are idiots.
Fewer idiots = better situation.
A lot of this is politics and nothing to do with Boats. Two fingers up to the authority figures.
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Post by dogless on Mar 29, 2024 19:12:04 GMT
Have to agree with the above comments.
Twenty years of ownership this year and I have no significant complaints.
Management relating to services (elsan and rubbish) is frustrating, and I'm not impressed with selling off plant and de-skilling staff, but the focus of London boaters (many perhaps unfair complaints) seems to 'trump' everything else.
Sorry but I guess you'll not be surprised.
Rog
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Post by Mr Stabby on Mar 29, 2024 19:18:45 GMT
Compared to other organisations I've had to deal with over the years, CRT are absolute pussycats. I can't imagine DVSA writing a series of increasingly strident letters to an Operator over the course of several years reminding him that he needs an MOT and road tax on his truck.
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Post by Aloysius on Mar 29, 2024 19:22:30 GMT
But the latest bone of contention doesn't revolve around bridge hopping or the usual points of tension, it's about CRT (allegedly) failing to maintain the furniture (in this case a lock, I gather) to the stated specs and then getting all humpty when someone makes a post about calling them out on it (albeit in a somewhat uncivilised way) and with doubtful likelihood of actually doing it.
I don't do Facebook so I haven't read the original posts, I'm just going on what's been posted here. But the usual crap about 'not paying' gets trotted out when such things appear to have SFA about the actual point. Which seems typical.
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Post by on Mar 29, 2024 19:27:16 GMT
The beam question is interesting.
Who is in charge of the waterways?.
I know there has been some creep in terms of maximum dimensions but what needs to happen is for someone to get real information and put a Boat into the entrance to a lock which was previously advertised as being big enough then make a complaint.
Being a dick on social media about it is too easy. Action needed !
No need to wedge the thing in just go in slowly then make a complaint about it not fitting.
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Post by fi on Mar 29, 2024 19:33:00 GMT
The beam question is interesting. Who is in charge of the waterways?. I know there has been some creep in terms of maximum dimensions but what needs to happen is for someone to get real information and put a Boat into the entrance to a lock which was previously advertised as being big enough then make a complaint. Being a dick on social media about it is too easy. Action needed ! No need to wedge the thing in just go in slowly then make a complaint about it not fitting. A tape measure would suffice if things were that easy. Surely you need to profile the lock along its length and depth. Sticking a boat in there and lowering/raising the lock would do it but you would be a brave person to do so.
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Post by dogless on Mar 29, 2024 19:34:12 GMT
Been done accidently, not as a protest, at Hurlstone and Napton to name but two.
They just change the notified dimensions.
Rog
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Post by on Mar 29, 2024 19:40:30 GMT
Hurleston not Hurlstone.
Yes they do.
Its the position if the e.
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Post by on Mar 29, 2024 19:41:27 GMT
'of the e'
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Post by on Mar 29, 2024 19:45:26 GMT
In the end it is better to have a Boat which is clearly well within the limits of the locks rather than try to be clever and have one which is getting close to the maximums. If you do the second of these two things problems are more likely to occur.
I suppose there might be a theory that the locks would get progressively less wide but what is the priority in reality?
Is it keeping the canals open in general or pouring money into areas which have moving locks which might not be able to accommodate big wide things ?
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Post by Aloysius on Mar 29, 2024 19:48:20 GMT
Been done accidently, not as a protest, at Hurlstone and Napton to name but two. They just change the notified dimensions. Rog 😂😂😂
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