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Post by peterboat on Nov 8, 2016 18:13:23 GMT
I have a 12 x 57 widebeam you wouldnt believe how much ballast I have down there! 20mm baseplate would have been better and far stronger alternatively 15mm and 8 mm sides would have done it. When its in the dry dock the baseplate goes all wavy with the weight not good to look at
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Post by Mr Stabby on Nov 8, 2016 19:39:21 GMT
I suppose it depends on how you are going to use the boat and to what level of effort and expense you are wiling to go. Is underfloor heating a viable option in a liveaboard narrowboat? I can't help feeling that if it was, it would be a standard fitment on narrowboats. It might be possible if you lived in a marina and had a permanent mains hook-up but if you are out cruising and relying on the engine for heat, I just can't see how there could still be a comfortable amount of residual heat coming through the floor twelve hours after you have turned the engine off. Get a red felt-tip pen and draw a horizontal line on your legs, three inches below your knees. Everything below that line is below the waterline. Whatever it is, it's not going to stay toasty warm for long. I'd suggest you buy some thick socks.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2016 20:03:07 GMT
I like the waterline description Its funny how whenever I tell someone I live on a boat they all (and I mean ALL) say "is it cold in the winter?" Everyone. Not just most people but 99.99%. Or something like that anyway. From now on I am going to keep the red felt tip marker pen in my pocket and when asked I can draw a line as described so they know -where- it is cold rather than going on about how its so fekkin hot in the boat I have to wear a T-shirt !! Or even better I can get the misses to embroider a red line into my house-visiting trousers (the clean ones) that'd sort it out !
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Post by Mr Stabby on Nov 8, 2016 20:49:58 GMT
Its funny how whenever I tell someone I live on a boat they all (and I mean ALL) say "is it cold in the winter?" Questions I've been asked by gongoozlers... 1) How do you survive? Do you have food in there? 2) Do you have to find a Tesco or Sainsbury's when you need diesel? 3) How do you stand up in there? (because they can only visualise the bit above the waterline) And of course, everybody asks if it is cold in Winter. My standard answer is "sometimes".
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Post by bromleyxphil on Nov 8, 2016 20:54:07 GMT
I have a camper van and a mate came in sat down and said "it looks really good but when you go on holiday, where do you put the cases" Nuff said
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Post by bromleyxphil on Nov 8, 2016 21:01:13 GMT
Well guys I love the idea of thicker steel in place of ballast, does anyone build them in Hardox by the way? No one seems to have put me off the idea of sprayfoaming under the floor, I wonder why it isn't common practice? phil i am going to have to get my head round the terminology as I don't know my Chines from my Bilge at the moment.
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Post by tonyqj on Nov 8, 2016 21:04:50 GMT
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Post by bromleyxphil on Nov 8, 2016 21:06:26 GMT
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Post by bromleyxphil on Nov 8, 2016 21:33:05 GMT
Still don't quite understand a chine though, is it a lump above the 90degree join?
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Post by pǝʇɹǝʌuı on Nov 8, 2016 21:33:50 GMT
I suppose it depends on how you are going to use the boat and to what level of effort and expense you are wiling to go. Is underfloor heating a viable option in a liveaboard narrowboat? I can't help feeling that if it was, it would be a standard fitment on narrowboats. It might be possible if you lived in a marina and had a permanent mains hook-up but if you are out cruising and relying on the engine for heat, I just can't see how there could still be a comfortable amount of residual heat coming through the floor twelve hours after you have turned the engine off. Get a red felt-tip pen and draw a horizontal line on your legs, three inches below your knees. Everything below that line is below the waterline. Whatever it is, it's not going to stay toasty warm for long. I'd suggest you buy some thick socks. That makes perfect sense, like the example too. looks like I'll be investing in some decent socks when we get our boat. Thanks
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Post by Delta9 on Nov 8, 2016 21:50:27 GMT
I have rugs. I never notice that the floor is cold and I often walk around bare foot.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Nov 8, 2016 21:59:55 GMT
Still don't quite understand a chine though, is it a lump above the 90degree join? Chines are sacrificial pieces of steel welded onto the stern at right angles to the hull beneath the waterline which take the brunt of the collision when you clout something with the arse end of the boat.
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Post by tonyqj on Nov 8, 2016 22:05:45 GMT
Still don't quite understand a chine though, is it a lump above the 90degree join? A chine is just a change in angle in the cross section of a hull. A hard chine is a sharp angle such as the almost 90 degree join between the hull and the base plate. A wide beam boat might have a couple of bends in the hull side prior to joining with the base plate. The top bend being more gentle and described as a soft chine.
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Post by tonyqj on Nov 8, 2016 22:06:21 GMT
Still don't quite understand a chine though, is it a lump above the 90degree join? Chines are sacrificial pieces of steel welded onto the stern at right angles to the hull beneath the waterline which take the brunt of the collision when you clout something with the arse end of the boat. Was this intended as a joke? It's completely incorrect and is likely to just confuse.
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Post by JohnV on Nov 8, 2016 22:06:59 GMT
Chine is the angle where the bottom strakes of a hull meet the sides of a hull With a hard chine hull (or flat bottomed like narrowboats) the chine is a pronounced angle With a soft chine or rounded hull the angle changes gradually in a curve
As Iconoclast says on narrow boats the flat bottom is extended beyond the joint with the sides to give a sacrificial edge that protects the welded joint
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