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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2017 12:52:23 GMT
My engine heats the water to about 60 degrees which is a bit hot for the kids washing their hands.
I don't really want to change the taps. Is there some sort of device I can put in there?
I guess I would need to take a cold feed and use some sort of mixer. But I don't really want to change the taps..
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2017 13:04:34 GMT
Simplest solution would be an under sink thermostatic mixing valve if you have room, but I'm sure an engineer will be along soon to suggest you redesign your heating system. ETA. And there must be an H & S expert out there to start waffling on about Legionella and how you need the water above 60 degrees to kill bacteria. I hate the world  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2017 13:10:08 GMT
Hot water is provided by an Alde old fasioned vertical gas boiler which is excellent or engine which makes it just a bit too hot. I'm not going to do a redesign as the system is really good but I do want to reduce water temperature at the washbasin faucet.
A third tap may be an option.
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Post by Stumpy on Apr 25, 2017 13:23:53 GMT
1) Fill wash hand basin with cold water to required level 2) Add hot water to required temperature 3) Wash hands 4) Pull the plug  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2017 13:24:54 GMT
A third tap may be an option. No need for a third tap, mixing valve supplies hot tap (with tee off from cold water side). I'm not a plumber or an engineer or a H & S expert so if I'm wrong don't blame me. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2017 13:36:47 GMT
A third tap may be an option. No need for a third tap, mixing valve supplies hot tap (with tee off from cold water side). I'm not a plumber or an engineer or a H & S expert so if I'm wrong don't blame me. You are right on this occasion 👍 All you need to do is tee into the cold tap supply to provide the TMV with cold to mix it to the desired temp for the hot tap. We have a TMV on the cauliflower set to 60° - engine can heat the hot to 82°+ we then have another TMV on the shower mixer set to high 30°s as we could do without peeling the dwarfs skin off! www.jtmplumbing.co.uk/heating-controls-valves-c436/altecnic-valves-c421/altecnic-caleffi-thermostatic-mixing-valve-tmv2-tmv3-wras-pp9589 |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2017 13:39:58 GMT
1) Fill wash hand basin with cold water to required level 2) Add hot water to required temperature 3) Wash hands 4) Pull the plug Have you tried changing human behaviour... Give me a simple alternative and I'll take it! |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2017 13:59:33 GMT
1) Fill wash hand basin with cold water to required level 2) Add hot water to required temperature 3) Wash hands 4) Pull the plug Our kids automatically go and wash their hands after being outside, eating or going to the dunny, no supervision so filling basin in advance is not appropriate. |
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Post by thebfg on Apr 25, 2017 15:21:02 GMT
Simplest solution would be an under sink thermostatic mixing valve if you have room, but I'm sure an engineer will be along soon to suggest you redesign your heating system. ETA. And there must be an H & S expert out there to start waffling on about Legionella and how you need the water above 60 degrees to kill bacteria. I hate the world I'm no expert but 60 degrees is ok. Somewhere around 90% of it will die within a couple of mins. |
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Post by quaysider on Apr 25, 2017 20:02:54 GMT
Brrr.... showering at your place must be a willy shrivelling experience. the one on our cauliflower is set to just a bit hotter than I can stand it but the one in the shower rarely goes below 40 - it "clicks" at 38 to allow stupid people NOT to have to think |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2017 20:31:05 GMT
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Post by Telemachus on Apr 25, 2017 22:05:44 GMT
The trouble with trying to make your kids world a safe place is that you can never actually do it 100%, and eventually they will meet a situation that is dangerous and for which you have totally and deliberately unprepared them. If the water is too hot to put their hands in, they will only do it once and then work out that it's best to put the plug in and mix some cold water. It is unlikely to kill them, whereas making their little bubble-world hazard-free probably will, eventually.
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Post by peterboat on Apr 25, 2017 22:13:37 GMT
Sorry Nick its a good idea to have a mixer it allows the hot water from the cauliflower to last longer and only today I bloody burnt my hands under the hot tap seriously!!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2017 22:26:27 GMT
Sorry Nick its a good idea to have a mixer it allows the hot water from the cauliflower to last longer and only today I bloody burnt my hands under the hot tap seriously!! I just love how auto correct changes 'Calorifier' to 'Cauliflower'...... |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2017 0:52:40 GMT
The trouble with trying to make your kids world a safe place is that you can never actually do it 100%, and eventually they will meet a situation that is dangerous and for which you have totally and deliberately unprepared them. If the water is too hot to put their hands in, they will only do it once and then work out that it's best to put the plug in and mix some cold water. It is unlikely to kill them, whereas making their little bubble-world hazard-free probably will, eventually. Let me know your attitude when you actually have one. Allowing a child the Potential risk to scold themselves for £30 so they learn a life lesson is one of your more idiotic statements. in the case of our shower A writhing, crying, soapy toddler isn't easy to deal with if the water temperature isnt just so, a transom shower mixer is a crude affair adding a tmv solves this problem in a stroke. Still, it's easy to make ill informed and ill judge statements when you have no practical experience of a subject 👍 |
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