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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2018 16:41:59 GMT
There is a lot of talk about electric autonomous cars and most of the car companies (Tesla being the most commonly mentioned) are going to be introducing self driving vehicles within the next 5 years. It will happen.
The question is do people want to call a car to collect them and deliver them using the phone? Or do they want to own their own car and use it as and when? Obviously you can already get a taxi via the phone but once you lose the human driver it could turn quite quickly into a non car ownership economy where most journeys are made by pre-booked automated vehicles which could arrange their own charging.
But would people accept that?
I reckon as there is so much money in it governments (consisting of people with vested interests) would introduced policies to outlaw or make car ownership too expensive.
Driverless cars could even wipe out railways. The journey cost would be so low and so convenient it would be impossible to compete.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Aug 23, 2018 16:51:56 GMT
It would be logical I suppose, what with most cars spending 95% of the time being unused. The only question is how the next hirer will feel after I have used one to take six bags of festering rubbish and a leaky Thetford cassette to the sanitary station.
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Post by lollygagger on Aug 23, 2018 16:53:36 GMT
I think initially the main impact will be thousands and thousands of taxi drivers on the dole. This is the most obvious market for driverless cars. Like most automation, the unskilled are the first to suffer.
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Post by Jim on Aug 23, 2018 16:56:38 GMT
The question of electrickery supply is unanswered. Where will it come from, to top up all the batteries?
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Post by Mr Stabby on Aug 23, 2018 16:58:35 GMT
I think initially the main impact will be thousands and thousands of taxi drivers on the dole. This is the most obvious market for driverless cars. Like most automation, the unskilled are the first to suffer. HGVs will be automated before taxis, particularly those used on easier journeys such as depot to depot motorway trunking.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Aug 23, 2018 17:01:08 GMT
The question of electrickery supply is unanswered. Where will it come from, to top up all the batteries? Autonomous vehicles can be powered by internal combustion engines. If battery power was used in trucks it would be fairly simple for vehicles to automatically change battery packs at strategic points in much the same way as fly boats changed horses.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2018 17:02:25 GMT
Can I book one to tow a caravan?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2018 17:05:11 GMT
it seems to me that if you can feed all the cars with fossil fuels which is the case currently then it would be possible to generate enough power to feed them with electricity. Specially if the cars were kept in large numbers at strategic locations with renewable energy and fossil fuel generation options optimized according to the demand.
People having cars outside their houses would be awkward but I think the move to electric will involve a change from ownership to some sort of hire arrangement. Obviously people with shed loads of money would still be able to drive about in proper cars they own bug it seems highly probable that for the plebs the best solution is whatever makes most money for the money grabbers.
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Post by lollygagger on Aug 23, 2018 17:06:38 GMT
I think initially the main impact will be thousands and thousands of taxi drivers on the dole. This is the most obvious market for driverless cars. Like most automation, the unskilled are the first to suffer. HGVs will be automated before taxis, particularly those used on easier journeys such as depot to depot motorway trunking. Precisely, same point though, the technology will be adopted firstly where there's a profit to be made by not paying staff, or at a minimum, not paying a human covers the cost of it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2018 17:06:56 GMT
Can I book one to tow a caravan? 875% surcharge Either that or caravans will be priced off the roads by punitive "hedgehog munching pikey*" taxes. *I say that to my misses every time we see a caravan - all thanks to Mrs tabby
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Post by Telemachus on Aug 23, 2018 17:09:44 GMT
I can see it having significant takeup in London. I can’t see it having significant takeup in the highlands of Scotland or other non-urban environments. Owning a car in London is a pain. Owning a car in rural-land is pretty essential. If you want to go everywhere (mostly long journies, compared to what you would do in London) and with the very low density of such trips, it would likely double the mileage. You want to go 25 miles to the big town for your shopping etc. You hail the autonomous car, it drives 35 miles to pick you up, another 35 miles to the city. The same trip a few hours later to get home. Or if the car is based in you locale, it only gets one hail every few days due to the low population density. Might as well have your own car.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Aug 23, 2018 17:10:17 GMT
it seems to me that if you can feed all the cars with fossil fuels which is the case currently then it would be possible to generate enough power to feed them with electricity. Specially if the cars were kept in large numbers at strategic locations with renewable energy and fossil fuel generation options optimized according to the demand. In the case of trucks, far fewer would be needed anyway since they would be running for 24 hours a day as provision would no longer be needed for the driver to murder and conceal the prostitute.
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Post by Jim on Aug 23, 2018 17:10:51 GMT
The question of electrickery supply is unanswered. Where will it come from, to top up all the batteries? Autonomous vehicles can be powered by internal combustion engines. If battery power was used in trucks it would be fairly simple for vehicles to automatically change battery packs at strategic points in much the same way as fly boats changed horses. Well yes, but not what I asked, where will the power to charge the batteries come from, there will need to be a few ah available nationally.
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Post by naughtyfox on Aug 23, 2018 17:13:59 GMT
More Old Bollocks. By the way, what's this? The Saudis have closed some of their taps and the price of 98% gasoline has gone up to 1.68 Euros/litre? How nice of them.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Aug 23, 2018 17:15:53 GMT
Autonomous vehicles can be powered by internal combustion engines. If battery power was used in trucks it would be fairly simple for vehicles to automatically change battery packs at strategic points in much the same way as fly boats changed horses. Well yes, but not what I asked, where will the power to charge the batteries come from, there will need to be a few ah available nationally. Wouldn't be difficult for battery packs to be charged overnight when demand for electricity is low. For a large haulier, such as Stobart it wouldn't be difficult for them to generate their own electricity using a combination of solar and diesel generators.
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