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Post by Mr Stabby on Sept 18, 2018 17:03:29 GMT
had we as a country really thought about it we could of had a better railway network reducing the loads on the road had we as a country really thought about it we could have had a viable water transport system reducing the loads on the roads Think we'd have need to have dug far deeper, wider canals though, and even then the concept really only works when large volumes of goods are moved between the same two places.
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Post by naughtyfox on Sept 18, 2018 17:10:04 GMT
There's no good reason canals can't be made today. It'd be planning for the future. Perhaps there could even be automated boats?
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Post by Mr Stabby on Sept 18, 2018 17:10:41 GMT
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Post by Mr Stabby on Sept 18, 2018 17:12:44 GMT
There's no good reason canals can't be made today. It'd be planning for the future. Perhaps there could even be automated boats? Rugby to Llangollen according to CanalPlan AC- 77 hours. Rugby to Llangollen according to AA route planner- 2 hours 48 minutes.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2018 17:14:55 GMT
If policymakers looked seriously at using canal routes for freight transport they would get filled in and modern rail or tube based transport systems built along the lines.
I don't think anyone would want that.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Sept 18, 2018 17:20:11 GMT
If policymakers looked seriously at using canal routes for freight transport they would get filled in and modern rail or tube based transport systems built along the lines. I don't think anyone would want that. Were it not for Barbara Castle and the 1968 Transport Act then they would almost certainly been filled in 50 years ago.
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Post by thebfg on Sept 18, 2018 17:42:10 GMT
I've thought about this and o bet there is a market especially on London for goods to be delivered by boat. with a big mark up like fair trade and green products.
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Post by naughtyfox on Sept 18, 2018 18:01:10 GMT
There's no good reason canals can't be made today. It'd be planning for the future. Perhaps there could even be automated boats? Rugby to Llangollen according to CanalPlan AC- 77 hours. Rugby to Llangollen according to AA route planner- 2 hours 48 minutes. But you don't need a set of dining plates, a new bicycle, coal, sand, canned foods, bottled water, spectacles, computer printer paper, magnesium anodes or sugar in 2 hours 48 minutes. Can't we get away from the "I want that and I want it right now!" attitude? Google Maps says Rugby to Llangollen 107 miles. Let's call it 120. A canal boat going along a new canal at 4 miles/hour will do 40 miles in 10 hours. Let's say a working day is 10 hours. So it's 3 days from Rugby to Llangollen. I often wait 2 weeks for a book or DVD from Amazon - that's 560 miles a canal boat could have done in a 10-hour day at 4mph. There's plenty of lazy fuckers doing fuck all every day in Britain, all the benefit scroungers and benefit fiddlers and lazy cunts who have a 'bad back' - give each and every one a spade and tell 'em to start digging for their daily food allowance and tent.
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Post by naughtyfox on Sept 18, 2018 18:05:28 GMT
I've thought about this and o bet there is a market especially on London for goods to be delivered by boat. with a big mark up like fair trade and green products. There's probably a big market for drugs to go round the canals in London and Manchester. Fair Trade is a con, as is 'green' and all this 'organic' nonsense. The Police could have a patrol boat, just going slowly round the big cities (can easily include Birmingham in the list of grotty canal-infested dumps) - they'd keep an eye out for anything unusual/suspicious, and be available to anyone who happens to need them in that area. They could sleep and make cups of tea in their boat.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Sept 18, 2018 18:16:53 GMT
Rugby to Llangollen according to CanalPlan AC- 77 hours. Rugby to Llangollen according to AA route planner- 2 hours 48 minutes. Google Maps says Rugby to Llangollen 107 miles. Let's call it 120. A canal boat going along a new canal at 4 miles/hour will do 40 miles in 10 hours. Let's say a working day is 10 hours. So it's 3 days from Rugby to Llangollen. You forgot the locks. Preferred route from Grimes Bridge No 26 to Llangollen Basin CanalPlanAC Summary This is a trip of 144 miles, 4 furlongs and 93 locks from Grimes Bridge No 26 to Llangollen Basin. This will take 76 hours and 13 minutes which is 10 days, 6 hours and 13 minutes at 7 hours per day.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2018 18:21:36 GMT
I've thought about this and o bet there is a market especially on London for goods to be delivered by boat. with a big mark up like fair trade and green products. There's probably a big market for drugs to go round the canals in London and Manchester. Fair Trade is a con, as is 'green' and all this 'organic' nonsense. The Police could have a patrol boat, just going slowly round the big cities (can easily include Birmingham in the list of grotty canal-infested dumps) - they'd keep an eye out for anything unusual/suspicious, and be available to anyone who happens to need them in that area. They could sleep and make cups of tea in their boat. You don't half come out with some sensible shit sometimes !
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2018 18:22:32 GMT
Google Maps says Rugby to Llangollen 107 miles. Let's call it 120. A canal boat going along a new canal at 4 miles/hour will do 40 miles in 10 hours. Let's say a working day is 10 hours. So it's 3 days from Rugby to Llangollen. You forgot the locks. Preferred route from Grimes Bridge No 26 to Llangollen Basin CanalPlanAC Summary This is a trip of 144 miles, 4 furlongs and 93 locks from Grimes Bridge No 26 to Llangollen Basin. This will take 76 hours and 13 minutes which is 10 days, 6 hours and 13 minutes at 7 hours per day. 76 hours so that's 3 days at 24h per day with a 2 man crew. Eta never mind about slowing down past those annoying pleasure boaters.
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Post by naughtyfox on Sept 18, 2018 18:29:40 GMT
Google Maps says Rugby to Llangollen 107 miles. Let's call it 120. A canal boat going along a new canal at 4 miles/hour will do 40 miles in 10 hours. Let's say a working day is 10 hours. So it's 3 days from Rugby to Llangollen. You forgot the locks. Preferred route from Grimes Bridge No 26 to Llangollen Basin CanalPlanAC Summary This is a trip of 144 miles, 4 furlongs and 93 locks from Grimes Bridge No 26 to Llangollen Basin. This will take 76 hours and 13 minutes which is 10 days, 6 hours and 13 minutes at 7 hours per day. No - I'm talking about new canals - would need very few locks - and these could be giant ones, electrically operated. How about nice straight canals from: Holyhead to Dover, Felixstowe to Swansea, Portsmouth to Grimsby, Bristol to Skegness? The old canals could be tarted up a bit, trying not to lose their historical character too much, for freight too. So there are a lot of locks, you'll just have to wait a bit - but waiting means little if things are designed and planned well. Transporting a lot of freight by water means enjoyable employment for many, and would save the country a lot of money in energy costs. I'm thinking of really long-term planning for the country, not short-sighted grab-it, flog-it and profit-from-it. On the other hand, Britain is going downhill fast, so why bother with anything at all?
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Post by Mr Stabby on Sept 18, 2018 18:40:19 GMT
You forgot the locks. Preferred route from Grimes Bridge No 26 to Llangollen Basin CanalPlanAC Summary This is a trip of 144 miles, 4 furlongs and 93 locks from Grimes Bridge No 26 to Llangollen Basin. This will take 76 hours and 13 minutes which is 10 days, 6 hours and 13 minutes at 7 hours per day. No - I'm talking about new canals - would need very few locks - and these could be giant ones, electrically operated. How about nice straight canals from: Holyhead to Dover, Felixstowe to Swansea, Portsmouth to Grimsby, Bristol to Skegness? Basically though, canals started going into decline when railways came along, and that was well over 150 years ago. Where would they be built? It would be near impossible to widen existing canals to the size of those in Belgium or Holland because of subsequent development, so new canals would have to be built across sub-optimal terrain. And then what? A canal terminus at the goods-in door at every Tesco supermarket in the land?
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Post by naughtyfox on Sept 18, 2018 18:40:43 GMT
Google Maps says Rugby to Llangollen 107 miles. Let's call it 120. A canal boat going along a new canal at 4 miles/hour will do 40 miles in 10 hours. Let's say a working day is 10 hours. So it's 3 days from Rugby to Llangollen. You forgot the locks. Preferred route from Grimes Bridge
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