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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2019 2:14:10 GMT
"Items stored on towpath as nowhere else to put them". Hmm
If you left items like that on any other public right of way I'm pretty sure they would be removed by the local council.
And presumably that is an old photo.
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Post by Andyberg on Jan 22, 2019 2:16:18 GMT
" And presumably that is an old photo. This is the trouble with you....You always let facts get in the way of a good rant!! πππΏ
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2019 2:24:47 GMT
Sorry about that !
Anyway I think if this story gets out into widespread circulation a can of worms will be opened because similar situations will exist in other places.
People don't want this.
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Post by rockdodger on Jan 22, 2019 2:55:38 GMT
With no balanced information to go on, I am tending towards the "Truth hurts" line (am more than happy to be wrong), I suspect that the state & condition of some of these boats (foxys photo eariler in this thread etc), would horrify the boating families of the 18 & 19 hundreds, who would appear to have taken pride in their home, despite living in (I understand) near poverty conditions.
Possibly a need to?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2019 3:03:50 GMT
Not too sure about the early boat dwellers. I think their lives have been romanticised somewhat.
I have read references to the living conditions of early residential narrow boat dwellers which implied that they in fact lived in unbelievable squalor surrounded by vermin and diseases.
There were acts of parliament passed in order to help deal with the problem.
One example is the public health act 1936.
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Post by rockdodger on Jan 22, 2019 3:12:43 GMT
Not too sure about the early boat dwellers. I think their lives have been romanticised somewhat. I have read references to the living conditions of early residential narrow boat dwellers which implied that they in fact lived in unbelievable squalor surrounded by vermin and diseases. There were acts of parliament passed in order to help deal with the problem. One example is the public health act 1936. Admittedly I was thinking of the working boat families. As I am not aware of the concerns & issues surrounding the early residential NB dwellers I accept your comments above.π
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2019 3:20:53 GMT
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Post by kris on Jan 22, 2019 9:10:33 GMT
The fact remains what ever the state of someone's boat, it doesn't give a member of the public the right to be verbally or physically abusive.
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Post by JohnV on Jan 22, 2019 9:36:06 GMT
The fact remains what ever the state of someone's boat, it doesn't give a member of the public the right to be verbally or physically abusive. That I would agree with totally Kris. On the other hand I do think that relevant authorities should enforce clearance on the grounds of safety and public health (just as there is by councils over privately owned houses) up to and including removal of the vessel as a last resort
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Post by kris on Jan 22, 2019 9:48:19 GMT
The fact remains what ever the state of someone's boat, it doesn't give a member of the public the right to be verbally or physically abusive. That I would agree with totally Kris. On the other hand I do think that relevant authorities should enforce clearance on the grounds of safety and public health (just as there is by councils over privately owned houses) up to and including removal of the vessel as a last resort I've never said otherwise John. The important point is "relevant authorities" if a situation develops where local residents are allowed to get away with vigilante actions, then how long until someone dies?
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Post by JohnV on Jan 22, 2019 10:01:41 GMT
That I would agree with totally Kris. On the other hand I do think that relevant authorities should enforce clearance on the grounds of safety and public health (just as there is by councils over privately owned houses) up to and including removal of the vessel as a last resort I've never said otherwise John. The important point is "relevant authorities" if a situation develops where local residents are allowed to get away with vigilante actions, then how long until someone dies? I understand that, which is why I phrased it as I did. Vigilante action is always a bad thing, however sometimes it is the result of negligence by the authorities. (doesn't justify it but does make its existence more understandable)
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Post by thebfg on Feb 18, 2019 10:49:22 GMT
wow, I'm late to this.
untill quite recently yes there was a serious problem towards boaters at BoA. it was becoming a no go zone for many
I can't say I have witnessed any issues and it appears to have calmed down.
what I don't get is the article talks about a family bit shows a picture of George and his boat, one wonders if they are trying to imply something. maybe Chris's boat is far too nice.
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Post by metanoia on Jan 8, 2020 16:53:21 GMT
Shocked to see this boat has disappeared. The towpath is covered in detritus (probably the deck and roof furnishings) but there is no sign of the boat at all - I even moved closer to the bank in case it had been sunk. Foxy must be delighted. Bellringing at Acton? met x
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2020 16:56:07 GMT
It seems improbable a narrow boat, even a springer, would be sunk below waterline on the cut. Could happen but unlikely. Maybe sold and the waste left for CRT to clear up ? I've wondered before if dumping stuff on towpaths comes under fly tipping law or if there is some bizarre loophole there. It does seem quite common. Maybe because CRT and BW before them are corporate type organisations they can't enforce against this sort of nuisance. NigelMoore is needed here but not seen him about. I hope all is well ! It could be something as simple as the BW/CRT culture of deliberately refusing to enforce byelaws.
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Post by Trina on Jan 8, 2020 20:03:47 GMT
"Just prior to Nantwich there is a boat moored, it was here last time we passed and I don't think I have ever seen a boat with more rubbished piled on the deck." Β Β source:Β Β Β Β Β nbharnser.blogspot.com/2017/03/This is a real rubbish boat, thereβs even plants growing through the rubbish. We saw this boat in May, except it was facing the other way. So many questions! Β Β source:Β Β Β Β livingonthecut.co.uk/category/canal/shropshire-union-canal/Shocked to see this boat has disappeared. The towpath is covered in detritus (probably the deck and roof furnishings) but there is no sign of the boat at all - I even moved closer to the bank in case it had been sunk. Foxy must be delighted. Bellringing at Acton? met x It had gone before Christmas.We heard two versions-it had been taken away by CRT & it had gone to a dry dock to have 'some work done'.I don't somehow imagine it's the second reason but I do wonder what has happened to the owner as it's their home.
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