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Post by kris on Jul 24, 2021 19:47:06 GMT
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Post by thebfg on Jul 24, 2021 19:49:26 GMT
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Post by TonyDunkley on Jul 24, 2021 20:32:30 GMT
Prior to putting its carefully planned scam to steal the ex-Liverpool Bar Lightship "Planet" from its rightful owner into action, the Canal & River Trust [C&RT] had, initially, acted proportionately and within the law in dealing with what were Alan Roberts' only 'offences', . . he hadn't paid his C&RT berth charges Invoice for the year 2015-16, and he had ignored a letter from C&RT terminating his 'Berthing Licence Agreement' [BLA] and giving notice for "Planet" to be removed from Canning Half-Tide Dock in Liverpool.
C&RT issued County Court Money Claim No. C6CQ89AO via the County Court Money Claim Centre [CCMCC] in Northampton on 11 April 2016 through Grimsby based Solicitors Wilkin Chapman - a Shoosmiths satellite. Only some considerable time after being issued was the Small Claims Track eligible Claim transferred to Liverpool for hearing, . . not by the C&RT's 'out of town' lawyers, . . but by the CCMCC itself.
C&RT's reasons for appointing Grimsby based solicitors Wilkin Chapman's to handle a simple Small Claims Track eligible claim originating in Liverpool and against a Liverpool resident are known only to C&RT itself, and its then lawyers, Shoosmiths. There is no doubt, however, that the reduced chances of attracting any local Liverpool media attention to the fact that Alan Roberts was already being sued in the County Court for a relatively small sum of money in connection with the late payment of Docks berthing charges would not have been unwelcome to the scheming C&RT local and legal staff engaged in concocting the cover story and the lies about the reasons for seizing the ship that were to be spun to the Merseyside Police, the media, and anyone else interested in or involved with the planned unlawful seizure and towing of the ship to Sharpness.
The cover story invented and put into effect by C&RT with regard to the seizure and towing away of "Planet" and the bogus 'Bailiffs' supplied by its contractor, Commercial Boat Services [CBS], on the morning of 19 September 2016 was that the ship was being lawfully seized in lieu of unpaid berthing fees under a "High Court Warrant" to then be legitimately sold by its 'new owners', the Canal & River Trust. Not only was this a complete fiction, . . as were the lies and - to borrow a favourite phrase from C&RT's Head of Illegal & Conspiracy Services - "malicious falsehoods" upon which C&RT founded, planned, and executed this wholly illegal exercise, . . but this blatant scam was planned and put into effect despite C&RT knowing full well that the minor monetary dispute with the ship's owner, around which this carefully planned deceit was constructed, was only three days away from ending its passage through the Courts, with final Judgment including Costs in C&RT's favour a foregone conclusion.
At a preliminary [Directions] hearing earlier in 2016, Alan Roberts' Defence to the County Court Money Claim was, quite rightly, struck out as being of no merit, and a final hearing date, on which C&RT had been ordered to provide a final figure for the total arrears owed and Judgment would be entered as a formality, was fixed for 23 September 2016.
The date fixed for the final hearing, 23 September, would therefore form a 'cut-off' point, beyond which any C&RT actions against Alan Roberts would be defined and limited by the (Court) Order that C&RT knew would be made on 23 September 2016. Any subsequent Bailiff action levying distress in the event of Alan Roberts failing to settle the debt in full and by the date set by the Court would have been ordered and executed by the Court itself, . . and NOT by Commercial Boat Services bogus Bailiffs acting fraudulently under C&RT's direct instructions.
Judgment in the sum of £5686.65, including Costs, was entered in favour of C&RT at the Liverpool Court on 23 September 2016 -- 3 x clear days AFTER the ship was unlawfully seized under the C&RT invented and wholly fictitious "High Court Warrant" by the C&RT and with the assistance of CBS's bogus "Bailiffs". By knowingly pre-empting the 23 September County Court Judgment with the unauthorized and therefore unlawful seizure of "Planet" on 19 September, C&RT were able to gain possession, albeit unlawfully and in contempt of due process, of a ship with a market value, at that time, of at the very least around £150,000 -- something that would never have been ordered or authorized by any Court in satisfaction of a Judgment Debt valued at £5686.65.
The seizure of "Planet", on 19 September 2016, by knowingly fraudulent means - the bogus Bailiffs and the story about the fictitious 'High Court Warrant' - was a wholly unlawful pre-meditated act by the C&RT to pre-empt and circumvent the findings and the anticipated terms of the Debt and Costs payment Order of the Liverpool Court that C&RT knew would be made only three clear days later, . . and from the outset was done with the clear intention of dishonestly and permanently depriving Alan Roberts of his ship, . . which, in anyone's book - including the one in which Parliament records the statutes - is theft under Section 1 of the Theft Act 1968.
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Post by TonyDunkley on Jul 24, 2021 20:58:10 GMT
I get the strangest feeling of deva vue, when I read any of Tony’s posts. Much like a goldfish starting another lap round its bowl ? Never mind, though, . . buy a dictionary, get some reading help from a local toddler group, . . and pretty soon you may surprise yourself by beginning to understand a few words of what's been written.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2021 21:12:21 GMT
I wonder if they have had the copper alloy scrap out already.
Should be easy enough to spot unless it has been replaced with bilge water.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Jul 24, 2021 22:27:17 GMT
I get the strangest feeling of deva vue, when I read any of Tony’s posts. I blame Margaret Thatcher and that "Care in the Community" thing. Before that came along the mentally ill were cared for in asylums.
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Post by TonyDunkley on Jul 26, 2021 19:25:35 GMT
(via e-mail)
Ex-Liverpool Bar Lightvessel - LV23 - "Planet"
Fao S. Beacham 26 July 2021
Mr Beacham,
Transcripts of a number of recent telephone conversations in which you and a Mr Paul Beacham fraudulently portrayed yourselves as the owners and/or legitimate sellers of LV23-"Planet" have been forwarded to Alan Roberts by a prospective buyer of the ship to whom you were unable, or unwilling, to provide a copy of a Bill of Sale, or any other documentary proof of either good title to the ship or lawful authority to sell as agent or broker.
We are also aware that you were unable, or unwilling, to provide a copy of a Bill of Sale or any other documentary proof of either good title to the ship, or lawful authority to sell as agent or broker, after being contacted by National Historic Ships UK pursuant to a similar request on behalf of another prospective buyer back in March of this year.
It is now some 4 years since you promised, at a meeting in your office at Sharpness, to forward a copy of the 2017 Bill of Sale for LV23-"Planet" that you claim to have from the Canal & River Trust [C&RT] to the ship's undisputed owner, Mr Alan Roberts.
The above reference to Mr Roberts as the ship's 'undisputed' owner will no doubt come as an unwelcome surprise as you have probably never been made aware that at no time prior to the public announcement of the supposed 'sale' of the ship to you did the C&RT ever formally claim ownership of or good title to LV23-"Planet".
All that the C&RT have ever claimed was a 'contractual' right to sell Mr Roberts' ship derived from a Termination Clause in the Liverpool South Docks Berthing Agreement between Mr Roberts and the C&RT. The contractual right to sell the ship initially gained tacit endorsement under a High Court Judgment lifting the Injunction that was preventing the C&RT from selling the ship on 19 December 2016.
That Judgment has since been called into question, and along with it the tacit endorsement of the specious claim to a contractual right to sell Mr Roberts' ship, by way of revelations that the C&RT's lawyers obtained the Judgment lifting the Injunction on the back of known to be false written evidence submitted to the Court shortly before the hearing that indicated to the Court that the seizure of the ship in Liverpool on 19 September 2016 and the subsequent removal and tow to Sharpness had been lawfully executed pursuant to a High Court Warrant. Having been informed of the above in writing now leaves you knowingly in possession of a ship that the seller of the ship in 2017, the C&RT, knew it had no lawful right, contractual or otherwise, to sell to you or any other party.
Mr Roberts has never received the promised copy of the BoS, or any other communication from you since meeting with you in your office back in 2017, it is therefore plainly evident that no such Bill of Sale exists, or has ever existed, and that the C&RT originated story of the supposed sale of the ship to yourselves was simply a fabrication to which you were a willing party.
With multiple video and audio recordings, telephone call transcripts, and information from National Historic Ships UK, Mr Roberts has ample evidence gathered from early 2017 to the present of your personal involvement in this matter from the time the ship was left in your possession on 24 September 2016, after arriving in Sharpness.
You have limited options, and very little time remaining during which you may possibly be able to dissociate yourself from this conspiracy to deprive Alan Roberts of his ship and his livelihood. You would be well advised to make good use of the time, and the choice of options.
In the interests of openness and accountability this letter will be published on the internet.
Signed,
A.K.Dunkley (Shipowner's Representative)
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Post by Jim on Jul 26, 2021 19:37:03 GMT
(via e-mail) Ex-Liverpool Bar Lightvessel - LV23 - "Planet"
Fao S. Beacham 26 July 2021
Mr Beacham,
Transcripts of a number of recent telephone conversations in which you and a Mr Paul Beacham fraudulently portrayed yourselves as the owners and/or legitimate sellers of LV23-"Planet" have been forwarded to Alan Roberts by a prospective buyer of the ship to whom you were unable, or unwilling, to provide a copy of a Bill of Sale, or any other documentary proof of either good title to the ship or lawful authority to sell as agent or broker.
We are also aware that you were unable, or unwilling, to provide a copy of a Bill of Sale or any other documentary proof of either good title to the ship, or lawful authority to sell as agent or broker, after being contacted by National Historic Ships UK pursuant to a similar request on behalf of another prospective buyer back in March of this year.
It is now some 4 years since you promised, at a meeting in your office at Sharpness, to forward a copy of the 2017 Bill of Sale for LV23-"Planet" that you claim to have from the Canal & River Trust [C&RT] to the ship's undisputed owner, Mr Alan Roberts.
The above reference to Mr Roberts as the ship's 'undisputed' owner will no doubt come as an unwelcome surprise as you have probably never been made aware that at no time prior to the public announcement of the supposed 'sale' of the ship to you did the C&RT ever formally claim ownership of or good title to LV23-"Planet".
All that the C&RT have ever claimed was a 'contractual' right to sell Mr Roberts' ship derived from a Termination Clause in the Liverpool South Docks Berthing Agreement between Mr Roberts and the C&RT. The contractual right to sell the ship initially gained tacit endorsement under a High Court Judgment lifting the Injunction that was preventing the C&RT from selling the ship on 19 December 2016.
That Judgment has since been called into question, and along with it the tacit endorsement of the specious claim to a contractual right to sell Mr Roberts' ship, by way of revelations that the C&RT's lawyers obtained the Judgment lifting the Injunction on the back of known to be false written evidence submitted to the Court shortly before the hearing that indicated to the Court that the seizure of the ship in Liverpool on 19 September 2016 and the subsequent removal and tow to Sharpness had been lawfully executed pursuant to a High Court Warrant. Having been informed of the above in writing now leaves you knowingly in possession of a ship that the seller of the ship in 2017, the C&RT, knew it had no lawful right, contractual or otherwise, to sell to you or any other party.
Mr Roberts has never received the promised copy of the BoS, or any other communication from you since meeting with you in your office back in 2017, it is therefore plainly evident that no such Bill of Sale exists, or has ever existed, and that the C&RT originated story of the supposed sale of the ship to yourselves was simply a fabrication to which you were a willing party.
With multiple video and audio recordings, telephone call transcripts, and information from National Historic Ships UK, Mr Roberts has ample evidence gathered from early 2017 to the present of your personal involvement in this matter from the time the ship was left in your possession on 24 September 2016, after arriving in Sharpness.
You have limited options, and very little time remaining during which you may possibly be able to dissociate yourself from this conspiracy to deprive Alan Roberts of his ship and his livelihood. You would be well advised to make good use of the time, and the choice of options.
In the interests of openness and accountability this letter will be published on the internet.
Signed,
A.K.Dunkley (Shipowner's Representative)Was that an earth tremor centred around Gloucester or Mr Beacham quaking in his boots?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2021 19:39:49 GMT
Shock and Awe, to quote a famous Merkin.
It would look a lot better coming from counsel but that would probably cost about a grand. Damhikt.
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Post by kris on Jul 27, 2021 0:35:30 GMT
Hey did Tony reserve the space for that last post?Or is he just posting anyold where.
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Post by TonyDunkley on Jul 27, 2021 4:52:01 GMT
This thread is a replacement for the "BAR Lightship Impounded by C&RT Yesterday" thread - originated on 20 September 2016, and now obscurely re-titled at the mindless whim of one of the more recently joined recruits to the Thunderboat Goon Squad.
Some posts will be repeated, as appropriate on the "Navigation Authority or Government sponsored Scammers" thread.
This post may be used at some point as a form of indexing, referencing or for repeating posts from the original thread as, when, and if necessary or appropriate.
Any attempts on the part of any of the more vacuous members of TB to disrupt this thread, or to bury any parts of it it under their trade mark garbage, will result in the thread being re-commenced from a suitable point.
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Post by TonyDunkley on Jul 27, 2021 4:53:54 GMT
(via e-mail) Ex-Liverpool Bar Lightvessel - LV23 - "Planet" 26 July 2021 Fao S. Beacham
Mr Beacham,
Transcripts of a number of recent telephone conversations in which you and a Mr Paul Beacham fraudulently portrayed yourselves as the owners and/or legitimate sellers of LV23-"Planet" have been forwarded to Alan Roberts by a prospective buyer of the ship to whom you were unable, or unwilling, to provide a copy of a Bill of Sale, or any other documentary proof of either good title to the ship or lawful authority to sell as agent or broker.
We are also aware that you were unable, or unwilling, to provide a copy of a Bill of Sale or any other documentary proof of either good title to the ship, or lawful authority to sell as agent or broker, after being contacted by National Historic Ships UK pursuant to a similar request on behalf of another prospective buyer back in March of this year.
It is now some 4 years since you promised, at a meeting in your office at Sharpness, to forward a copy of the 2017 Bill of Sale for LV23-"Planet" that you claim to have from the Canal & River Trust [C&RT] to the ship's undisputed owner, Mr Alan Roberts.
The above reference to Mr Roberts as the ship's 'undisputed' owner will no doubt come as an unwelcome surprise as you have probably never been made aware that at no time prior to the public announcement of the supposed 'sale' of the ship to you did the C&RT ever formally claim ownership of or good title to LV23-"Planet".
All that the C&RT have ever claimed was a 'contractual' right to sell Mr Roberts' ship derived from a Termination Clause in the Liverpool South Docks Berthing Agreement between Mr Roberts and the C&RT. The contractual right to sell the ship initially gained tacit endorsement under a High Court Judgment lifting the Injunction that was preventing the C&RT from selling the ship on 19 December 2016.
That Judgment has since been called into question, and along with it the tacit endorsement of the specious claim to a contractual right to sell Mr Roberts' ship, by way of revelations that the C&RT's lawyers obtained the Judgment lifting the Injunction on the back of known to be false written evidence submitted to the Court shortly before the hearing that indicated to the Court that the seizure of the ship in Liverpool on 19 September 2016 and the subsequent removal and tow to Sharpness had been lawfully executed pursuant to a High Court Warrant. Having been informed of the above in writing now leaves you knowingly in possession of a ship that the seller of the ship in 2017, the C&RT, knew it had no lawful right, contractual or otherwise, to sell to you or any other party.
Mr Roberts has never received the promised copy of the BoS, or any other communication from you since meeting with you in your office back in 2017, it is therefore plainly evident that no such Bill of Sale exists, or has ever existed, and that the C&RT originated story of the supposed sale of the ship to yourselves was simply a fabrication to which you were a willing party.
With multiple video and audio recordings, telephone call transcripts, and information from National Historic Ships UK, Mr Roberts has ample evidence gathered from early 2017 to the present of your personal involvement in this matter from the time the ship was left in your possession on 24 September 2016, after arriving in Sharpness.
You have limited options, and very little time remaining during which you may possibly be able to dissociate yourself from this conspiracy to deprive Alan Roberts of his ship and his livelihood. You would be well advised to make good use of the time, and the choice of options.
In the interests of openness and accountability this letter will be published on the internet.
Signed,
A.K.Dunkley (Shipowner's Representative)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2021 5:32:44 GMT
My mother eventually succumbed to dementia. One notable trait as the disease progressed was that she would typically be most active, physically and mentally, in the morning. It seems to be a thing.
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Post by thebfg on Jul 27, 2021 6:25:28 GMT
To be fair I thought the letter was well written based on facts that Mr Roberts believes to be true.
But out of interest I know your helping him and that's commendable but would you not be better served concentrating on your own issues?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2021 6:45:13 GMT
You're absolutely right. It was essential that Mr Beacham read the said missive twice.
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