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Post by kris on Aug 13, 2023 9:01:07 GMT
I’ve just heard a report about the demo/rally in Birmingham on national radio. It made me think, crt are really good at pr. I think they have been very clever by harnessing the general unhappiness among boaters about the maintenance of the waterways. A lot of which is to do with policies crt have initiated. They’ve managed to deflect this onto the goverment. (Very clever misdirection.) I don’t think it’s a good idea for crt to be given more money, until they have proven they are competent of looking after the waterways in an efficient way. I’m sure they will have been lobbying the government hard before the announcement of the funding review. So the fact they have started this campaign, points to a break down in communication between crt and defra. This is not going to end well for the waterways.
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Post by dogless on Aug 13, 2023 11:24:37 GMT
Thank the lord we've found what the management team are good at !
Perhaps this kind of pressure group work and politics will be Mr Parry's forte.
To be honest researching the backgrounds of the C&RT management group doesn't seem to evidence ANY waterways knowledge or experience.
And they seem to have sold off all equipment, and contracted out any experience.
At a time when money for the waterways is, understandably becoming tight and a low priority in the state of the nation, this isn't the position from which a potentially long period of austerity should be started.
And talking with C&RT's few remaining employees (if you can find one) demoralisation and despondency seems to be the prevailing mood.
Things can only get better 😁
Rog
PS they may get worse first 👍
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2023 14:42:25 GMT
Parry and the worthless top tier of management need to go. Any further funding will just be wasted by the shower of imbeciles. CRT needs new management with initiatives and preferably able to work alongside its only "paying users".
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Post by kris on Aug 13, 2023 18:54:18 GMT
I think this “ fund the waterways,” campaign is just an attempt to make the iwa relevant again. The chair of the campaign is also the chair of the iwa?
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Post by metanoia on Aug 13, 2023 19:03:51 GMT
I think this “ fund the waterways,” campaign is just an attempt to make the iwa relevant again. The chair of the campaign is also the chair of the iwa? Sadly, he didn't look or sound too convincing on the local news this evening.
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Post by kris on Aug 13, 2023 19:12:15 GMT
I think this “ fund the waterways,” campaign is just an attempt to make the iwa relevant again. The chair of the campaign is also the chair of the iwa? Sadly, he didn't look or sound too convincing on the local news this evening. I didn’t see it, was that itv? You mean they didn’t interview parry?
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Post by metanoia on Aug 13, 2023 19:16:00 GMT
Sadly, he didn't look or sound too convincing on the local news this evening. I didn’t see it, was that itv? You mean they didn’t interview parry? Caught the BBC Midlands news - was braced for Parry but just saw a few seconds of someone (not sure if they even gave his name) looking across a few boats representing the IWA warning that we might lose much of our waterways if CRT don't get their funding.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2023 19:17:53 GMT
I think this “ fund the waterways,” campaign is just an attempt to make the iwa relevant again. The chair of the campaign is also the chair of the iwa? Sadly, he didn't look or sound too convincing on the local news this evening. A pretty pathetic offering from him, but that's nothing new. He's always been worthless.
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Post by kris on Aug 13, 2023 19:33:54 GMT
I’m beginning to think it’s just a way of misdirecting a lot of the unhappiness boaters are feeling about the lack of maintenance.
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Post by on Aug 13, 2023 19:43:15 GMT
Its all fucked.
59 people with harold shipman beards does not amount to a hill of beans.
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Post by kris on Aug 13, 2023 19:52:51 GMT
It did look a bit like rich entitled white people asking the government to subsidies their lifestyle.
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Post by metanoia on Aug 13, 2023 19:54:12 GMT
You/we really need to campaign about these closed services kris. The stoppages/closures at nearly every Elsan this summer have been ridiculous. Hotspots - Napton, Braunston, Fradley, Gailey, etc etc. Mostly down to mismanagement I fear as they are "overflowing" or "blocked" - i.e. no ongoing contract for emptying? This has been a relatively quiet season, which makes it worse. Great Haywood waterpoint was out for about 10 days (a really busy hub with no more water for many miles and locks in any direction but I believe dogless paid the boatyard there for a tankful when he made a special journey there (apologies if I got that wrong dogless) and is out of action AGAIN after less than two weeks.... Not sure which way to head next I phoned CRT. Got through to the West Midlands area who told me they know no more than us .... closed on 9th August...contractors will be contacted... glad I bothered phoning for no information days later....
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Post by on Aug 13, 2023 19:55:47 GMT
How surprising.
At the end of the day canals are no use to ordinary people other than as a way to get from B to A faster using a bike or perhaps engagement with the wildlife. Boats are a hindrance for the latter. If there are boats moored there is no access to the waterside.
Massive change in priority is needed and it won't be easy to do this.
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Post by kris on Aug 13, 2023 20:00:14 GMT
You/we really need to campaign about these closed services kris. The stoppages/closures at nearly every Elsan this summer have been ridiculous. Hotspots - Napton, Braunston, Fradley, Gailey, etc etc. Mostly down to mismanagement I fear as they are "overflowing" or "blocked" - i.e. no ongoing contract for emptying? This has been a relatively quiet season, which makes it worse. Great Haywood waterpoint was out for about 10 days (a really busy hub with no more water for many miles and locks in any direction but I believe dogless paid the boatyard there for a tankful when he made a special journey there (apologies if I got that wrong dogless) and is out of action AGAIN after less than two weeks.... Not sure which way to head next I phoned CRT. Got through to the West Midlands area who told me they know no more than us .... closed on 9th August...contractors will be contacted... glad I bothered phoning for no information days later.... I tend to agree. Two out of the four service blocks I’ve passed this year have been closed. I’m not sure how to take it further at the moment. They’ve refused to answer my foi request. I was thinking of putting another one in, but I’m a bit busy at the moment. I definitely agree, that it’s one of the most important issues. When these services are closed they will go and never will open again. It does make a big difference for people who move around.
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Post by kris on Aug 13, 2023 20:02:42 GMT
Maybe put in a formal complaint to crt about the services and get any boater you meet who moans about it to do the same?
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