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Post by fi on Oct 5, 2023 18:26:23 GMT
Even if it does get to Euston, looks like all the future expansion land will be covered by rabbit hutches (expensive tiny flats). No looking forward to the long term infrastructure in that decision.
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Post by dogless on Oct 5, 2023 20:41:06 GMT
Agreed, but it is yet another short term subsidy rather than a long term idea. It should be a long term idea ... public transport should be subsidised. Rog |
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Post by brummieboy on Oct 7, 2023 11:40:31 GMT
Agreed, but it is yet another short term subsidy rather than a long term idea. It should be a long term idea ... public transport should be subsidised. Rog Public Transport is already quite heavily subsidised, both rail through the Rail Delivery Group and Transport for London. Bus services are subsidised with fuel duty refunds, local authority reimbursing concessionary travel, and the current max fare scheme from the government. |
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Post by dogless on Oct 7, 2023 11:55:01 GMT
It should be a long term idea ... public transport should be subsidised. Rog Public Transport is already quite heavily subsidised, both rail through the Rail Delivery Group and Transport for London. Bus services are subsidised with fuel duty refunds, local authority reimbursing concessionary travel, and the current max fare scheme from the government. I know and so it should be. It should be a public service in public ownership too. Rog |
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Post by brummieboy on Oct 7, 2023 13:42:02 GMT
Public Transport is already quite heavily subsidised, both rail through the Rail Delivery Group and Transport for London. Bus services are subsidised with fuel duty refunds, local authority reimbursing concessionary travel, and the current max fare scheme from the government. I know and so it should be. It should be a public service in public ownership too. Rog Public ownership is the last thing that it needs. Where management is in government controlled, efficiency goes completely out of the door. The utilities are far from perfect, but perforn much better than the old nationalised institutions. If the regulators did their job properly, then a lot of the problems would disappear. The regulators are really the management of those undertakings, but are Government quangos, and have no real responsibility and do not use the authority they have. Since WFH has become the norm, they are even more sclerotic. |
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Post by dogless on Oct 7, 2023 13:53:21 GMT
Then we disagree.
Rog
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Post by Jim on Oct 8, 2023 6:20:37 GMT
I know and so it should be. It should be a public service in public ownership too. Rog Public ownership is the last thing that it needs. Where management is in government controlled, efficiency goes completely out of the door. The utilities are far from perfect, but perforn much better than the old nationalised institutions. If the regulators did their job properly, then a lot of the problems would disappear. The regulators are really the management of those undertakings, but are Government quangos, and have no real responsibility and do not use the authority they have. Since WFH has become the norm, they are even more sclerotic. Oh yes, the lack of investment in sewage and water infrastructure being a prime example of creaming off the profits. The Turd Reich rules. |
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Post by Mr Stabby on Oct 8, 2023 6:45:39 GMT
It should be a long term idea ... public transport should be subsidised. Rog Public Transport is already quite heavily subsidised, both rail through the Rail Delivery Group and Transport for London. Bus services are subsidised with fuel duty refunds, local authority reimbursing concessionary travel, and the current max fare scheme from the government. Bus fares are also zero-rated for VAT, meaning that bus companies to not have to hand over any VAT to HMRC, while simultaneously being able to reclaim the input VAT paid on diesel and other vatable purchases. |
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Post by brummieboy on Oct 8, 2023 11:06:02 GMT
Public ownership is the last thing that it needs. Where management is in government controlled, efficiency goes completely out of the door. The utilities are far from perfect, but perforn much better than the old nationalised institutions. If the regulators did their job properly, then a lot of the problems would disappear. The regulators are really the management of those undertakings, but are Government quangos, and have no real responsibility and do not use the authority they have. Since WFH has become the norm, they are even more sclerotic. Oh yes, the lack of investment in sewage and water infrastructure being a prime example of creaming off the profits. The Turd Reich rules. The lack of investment in infrastructure by Government brings us back to the title of this thread. The thing that really grips my shit is the fact that so much of our utilities are foreign owned so the dividends don't even remain in the country. This is the area that needs to be tackled. |
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Post by dogless on Oct 8, 2023 11:18:02 GMT
Yes crazy isn't it ... sell our utility companies to foreign governments because ours can't own them.
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