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Post by fi on Oct 3, 2023 20:26:54 GMT
Good news or bad? BBC just annouced before Rishi announces it tomorrow...
Would be interested in other thoughts. My view, what an absolute clusterfuck.
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Post by Aloysius on Oct 3, 2023 20:34:50 GMT
Shall we look forward to the state-of-the-art replacement bus service?
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Post by fi on Oct 3, 2023 20:37:22 GMT
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Post by Aloysius on Oct 3, 2023 20:50:57 GMT
I somehow doubt this latest announcement is the end of the story though.
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Post by on Oct 3, 2023 21:39:27 GMT
I blame tiny blur and Jim Steer who oddly was my best friends dad when I was at school. He did well out of it all in the SRA and now has a magnificent house by the Thames. I remember cabinets full of model trains in his house.
He likes trains. Nice man I always got a good feeling from Mr HS2 back in the day.
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Post by on Oct 3, 2023 21:40:57 GMT
Here he is.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2023 7:41:25 GMT
Having the disaster more or less on my doorstep, I'm firmly in the camp of get rid. Hs2 is unnecessary, and has devastated areas it has gone through, fuckin criminal. Total waste of money. Vanity shit.
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Post by dogless on Oct 4, 2023 7:42:45 GMT
I was never convinced that high speed rail was best suited to a tiny, already overcrowded island, but I'm not a rail expert.
I can however think of a number of ways such vast sums of money could be spent to improve existing public transport, and additionally boost public finances.
The question is whether to not complete the plan is a waste of the money already invested in it ?
Rog
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Post by Jim on Oct 4, 2023 8:11:21 GMT
We can't complete 200 ish miles of upgraded railway to create more capacity while as a by product, having faster passenger services, as a supposedly world beating nation, we are the laughing stock of the world. Of course it's just a gambit by an un elected prime minister, one of a series in this squabbling party, to be seen to make a difference, pandering to right wing voters. A braver man would bit the bullet and carry on with it. Which reminds me, Cruella is up to similar tricks, spouting xenophobic dog whistle crap abroad for the Mail and Express readers here.
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Post by on Oct 4, 2023 8:25:40 GMT
Unless it was directly linked through onto HS1 I don't see the point. The UK is a small country. Now, if one could go from Mancs or Brum to Paris fast then it could be interesting because this is a very long distance.
I think the planners completely missed or ignored the internet phenomenon. Video conferencing must have taken a lot of traffic away from the railways.
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Post by fi on Oct 4, 2023 8:52:00 GMT
There just wasn't the expected passenger numbers to justify the link between HS1 and 2 plus all the tech difficulties regarding rolling stock. Do you remember when they tried to introduce through Eurostar trains to the north - project quickly failed. Border controls/security played a significant challenge, as it does today impacting where in europe trains that pass through the tunnel can go.
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Post by Aloysius on Oct 4, 2023 9:33:19 GMT
it's just a gambit by an un elected prime minister, one of a series in this squabbling party, to be seen to make a difference, pandering to right wing voters What about 'I blame Gordon Brown'? Actually valid in this case. He dreamt it up.
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Post by on Oct 4, 2023 9:39:16 GMT
Its funny how people think it is a Tory thing.
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Post by Jim on Oct 4, 2023 10:04:20 GMT
Its funny how people think it is a Tory thing. Obviously, one can trust Labour to come up with good ideas and to help level up the country. Meanwhile people are still only fixated on Passenger Numbers, ignoring the increased capacity for carrying goods, taking wagons off the motorway. We all benefit from that.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2023 10:15:03 GMT
Its funny how people think it is a Tory thing. Rubberdumb jim thinks every political farce is a tory one. Thick as mince.
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