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Post by on Mar 28, 2024 15:08:29 GMT
Interesting to know which Boat it was that was 'built for' the Lee navigation.
It does not read as a humorous comment at all.
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Post by dogless on Mar 28, 2024 15:47:46 GMT
It reads like a genuine comment to me too ... but I'm more than happy to accept it wasn't serious or intended to be taken as such, even though someone commented "I'm up for that". So how would you have handled it thebfg ... which bits are wrong and what are the alternatives Rog?
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Post by thebfg on Mar 28, 2024 16:25:31 GMT
He says it was a joke. I'm happy to take that at face value.
What would I do? Nothing.
There must be 1000s of comments everyday across social media. You only have to look here.
Ita a hypothetical scenario, it didn't need a reply at all.
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Post by Aloysius on Mar 28, 2024 16:30:06 GMT
Just shows that CRT really are monitoring soshalmeedya. 😯
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Post by dogless on Mar 28, 2024 16:30:16 GMT
Fair enough.
Not sure the person who reported the post would have been happy.
I still see nothing wrong with C&RT's e mail, but thanks.
Rog
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Post by Tony Dunkley on Mar 28, 2024 22:07:49 GMT
www.facebook.com/groups/londonboaters/permalink/10159408598036286/?mibextid=rS40aB7S9Ucbxw6v It's good that this group is able to see the C&RT for what it really is - a useless mismanaged shambles that lost its way from the day it came into being - but it's not so good that their actions and reactions are all so badly misdirected.
The C&RT is a private limited company that, having been given the responsibility for running and maintaining a publicly owned historic national asset, is leaving that historic national asset to fall apart to the extent that it no longer functions reliably or properly, . . as the useable inter-connected system of navigations it used to be before the days of the so-called Canal & River Trust.
Meantime, the senior management of this private limited company, from the CEO down, concentrates solely on managerial empire building, by creating vast numbers of utterly pointless new administrative jobs and positions for more office chair polishers, none of whom make any useful contribution whatsoever to the running and maintaining of our inland waterways.
The largely useless, and sometimes criminally inclined, contractors that have replaced all but a very few of the directly employed operating and maintenance staff that the C&RT inherited from British Waterways, do very nicely out of this crackpot regime, . . generally using plant, equipment and maintenance craft that the C&RT management have sold off to them for a tiny fraction of their true value.
It's quite pointless to target relatively lowly C&RT minions such as that arsehole Simon Cadek, Licence Support Supervisor for London Central & East . All available time, effort, and resources should be focussed on the conduct and actions of C&RT's corrupt and useless senior management, and on the crooked contractors, and the bent lawyers with which the corrupt and useless senior management has such a cosy and costly relationship.
Remove these people and their malign influence from OUR waterways, . . and the money C&RT does have to spend could then be channelled into running and maintaining the C&RT controlled inland waterways, . . instead of going into the corrupt management's, crooked contractor's, and bent lawyer's pockets, . . and into the pointless non-productive managerial empire building that has typified C&RT's administration since inception in 2012
One notable example of sort of thing that deserves some long overdue special attention from inland waterways pressure groups is the national pseudo-legal, and now highly organised, boat stealing operation that C&RT, along with its crooked contractors, Commercial Boat Services, has expanded and perfected since C&RT came into being in 2012. The total annual cost of this would go a long way towards covering the cost of a sizeable proportion of the maintenance that, under Parry's incompetent and discredited overall management, IS NOT getting done.
C&RT has become a national sick joke - it's not doing what it was created to do - and if our inland waterways are to survive as useable navigations, it MUST be turned back into something that at least bears a passing resemblance to a navigation authority. That process has to start somewhere, . . and as good a place as any to start would be with C&RT's profligate and wholly ineffective senior management, starting with chief empire builders, CEO Richard Parry, and Company Secretary/Head of Legal & Governance Services, Tom Deards, . . then followed with specimens such as Aymes and Symonds.
The following brief outline of the way C&RT's boat stealing scam operates is not meant as one possible suggested cure-all for everything that's wrong at C&RT, . . and should not be seen as such, . . but the total annual cost of C&RT's squads of 'Enforcement Teams', the huge number of lawyers who make up its Legal & Governance Services, and its massively expensive 'boat removal' contractors, all add up a major item in terms of misspent money, . . and it's that money the NBTA, and anyone else who wants to continue boating on our inland waterways, should be directing their efforts and energy towards getting spent on maintenance, . . instead of on corrupt senior management and crooked contractor pocket-lining.
_______________________________________________________________ From their unprofessional conduct, to their ingrained dishonesty, and their general lack of moral decency, C&RT's corrupt management and its crooked lawyers have a great deal in common with the corrupt management and crooked lawyers at the Post Office, . . the dishonest so-called professionals who, between themselves and the blinkered Court system, have been the architects of the most serious miscarriage of justice in British legal history. At the time of the original prosecutions, and during the ongoing inquiry into the Post Office's wrongful prosecutions brought against so many hundreds of Sub-postmasters, there is absolutely no doubt whatsoever that the Post Office's corrupt management, and its crooked lawyers, have been wilfully lying to and misleading the Courts for a great many years with their concocted evidence and intentionally evasive testimony. Why is it so difficult for so many people to believe that C&RT's professional liars - its senior management and its bent lawyers - wouldn't be capable of doing, or haven't already done, something remarkably similar to what the Post Office managers and lawyers did, and in some cases still are doing, to all those Sub-Postmasters through the Courts. Well, that's just what C&RT's professional liars have done, . . to the hundreds of boat owners who have, in effect, had their boats, homes, and personal goods and belongings stolen from them by means of a well rehearsed pseudo-legal sham, with the outward appearance of a correct and properly conducted legal process, but in truth entails lying to and deceiving everyone, from, firstly and most importantly, the Courts, . . then the Police, . . and finally the owner or occupier of the boat in question. Since its formal beginning in July 2012 the C&RT has dishonestly obtained huge numbers of what are technically (in Law) worthless Court Orders that have then been used by C&RT staff and contractors committing the serious criminal offence of impersonating bona fide Officers of the Court (formerly known as Bailiffs) and calling themselves 'Enforcement Officers', unlawfully to evict people from their boats, . . then unlawfully to seize their boats (usually complete with all contents, personal belongings, tools, goods etc.), . . then finally, and again unlawfully, . . craned out of the C&RT controlled or managed inland waterway, and transported, from wherever in England or Wales it might happen to be, by road, to storage on farm land near Chester. The storage land at the farm near Chester, where all these so-called 'removed' Section 8 boats are taken, is owned by one Brian Clarke, the crooked Managing Director and owner of a company called Commercial Boat Services [CBS]. It is CBS that provides C&RT with the phoney 'Enforcement Officers', . . the ones who lie to and deceive the Police, so that they, . . the phoney 'Enforcement Officers', are then left free to intimidate and forcibly evict boat owners from their boats and homes. CBS also arranges and invoices C&RT for the cranes and the road transport to take the unlawfully 'seized' so-called 'removed Section 8 boats' to Brian Clarke's farm near Chester, . . where the expensive storage for all of them is paid for, weekly, by C&RT. Brian Clarke, and his distinctly dubious company, make a powerful lot of money out of stealing people's boats on behalf of the C&RT, . . and the net benefit to the waterways, and to the boat owners who use those waterways, is a big fat zero.
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Post by Telemachus on Mar 28, 2024 23:07:31 GMT
Fair enough. Not sure the person who reported the post would have been happy. I still see nothing wrong with C&RT's e mail, but thanks. Rog I don’t see the email as threatening, but I do think it was an over-reaction which makes CRT look a bit silly. People mouth off aplenty on social media, but it rarely comes to anything and if an organisation is going to spend time reacting to every “off-message” post on social media, they are going to be very busy.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Mar 28, 2024 23:25:27 GMT
Fair enough. Not sure the person who reported the post would have been happy. I still see nothing wrong with C&RT's e mail, but thanks. Rog I don’t see the email as threatening, but I do think it was an over-reaction which makes CRT look a bit silly. People mouth off aplenty on social media, but it rarely comes to anything and if an organisation is going to spend time reacting to every “off-message” post on social media, they are going to be very busy. I guess that if some potential infraction is drawn to their attention then they have to respond in one way or another. I don't know where you would draw the line between "reaction" and "over-reaction".
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Post by Tony Dunkley on Mar 29, 2024 7:14:23 GMT
Fair enough. Not sure the person who reported the post would have been happy. I still see nothing wrong with C&RT's e mail, but thanks. Rog I don’t see the email as threatening, but I do think it was an over-reaction which makes CRT look a bit silly. People mouth off aplenty on social media, but it rarely comes to anything and if an organisation is going to spend time reacting to every “off-message” post on social media, they are going to be very busy. I think it makes C&RT look VERY silly, . . and it's something of a giveaway as to the extent of the (justified) Parrynoia.
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Post by on Mar 29, 2024 7:44:08 GMT
The 'ignore user' function is quite funny on this board. This is what one gets. Not a complete ignore but the drivel is not displayed on the screen. Saves a lot of space !
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Post by on Mar 29, 2024 7:45:12 GMT
One can choose to display it if one wants to. The main thing is that it does not show up by default so the thread is a lot easier to read.
First time I have ever used the function.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Mar 29, 2024 7:59:47 GMT
One can choose to display it if one wants to. The main thing is that it does not show up by default so the thread is a lot easier to read. First time I have ever used the function. Normally where this goes wrong is that if somebody subsequently replies and quotes the hidden post, the quote appears in their post although now that we have all agreed not to respond to his posts in any way, shape or form this shouldn't be an issue.
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Post by on Mar 29, 2024 8:14:15 GMT
Yes. Its just easier to read without the spam. I use a phone so the screen is quite small and the worthless repetitive content can be a real bore.
Never mind worse things happen at sea.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Mar 29, 2024 8:17:37 GMT
Yes. Its just easier to read without the spam. I use a phone so the screen is quite small and the worthless repetitive content can be a real bore. It is, although it is useful supporting evidence in any claim that the man is suffering an abnormality of the mind.
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Post by dogless on Mar 29, 2024 8:21:10 GMT
Fair enough. Not sure the person who reported the post would have been happy. I still see nothing wrong with C&RT's e mail, but thanks. Rog I don’t see the email as threatening, but I do think it was an over-reaction which makes CRT look a bit silly. People mouth off aplenty on social media, but it rarely comes to anything and if an organisation is going to spend time reacting to every “off-message” post on social media, they are going to be very busy. Don't entirely disagree, however it looks more like an 'over reaction' because the e mail has been made public. Just a private communication between C&RT and a guy threatening publicly to block a waterway as a protest, and I still think it is not an unreasonable response. However, I think we're all agreed that it's not threatening Out of interest, the fb thread has continued, as have the threats to block the waterway , so he wasn't too intimidated 😁 Rog
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