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Post by quaysider on Dec 27, 2016 18:43:17 GMT
I'm going to ask this over on the bbc, but before I do, what do the collective think about this please...
I got a quote for 450 quid to connect install a regulator and gas fuse and connect up my cooker and hob on Ellis - the piping is already run from the gas locker to where it needs to be and has some kind of "ends" already on...
I was expecting 300- maybe 300 for a couple of hours work and the connectors but 450 seems a bit steep - more so because the chap firstly sent me a message saying 350 followed a few mins later by another saying "sorry - I meant 450... fat fingers on this phone".
HENCE why xmas dinner was microwaved!
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Post by Telemachus on Dec 27, 2016 19:01:58 GMT
Yes it does seem a lot if it is just for the labour. Or does that include supplying the regulator and gas fuse?
Any reason why you don't want to do it yourself? And if you are using a "professional" he needs to be gas safe registered AND have the appropriate ticket for working on LPG on boats.
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Post by quaysider on Dec 27, 2016 19:13:09 GMT
tbh - gas scares me... it always has - more so since that carbon monoxide indecent a few years back. Water, electric and diesel I'm comfortable with but gas? ... no.
That was the price including the fuse and regulator but excluding bottles (which I've already got)
I've been looking on the gas safe register - for "attractive ones" - ... it's turned into a fun game actually lol.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2016 19:53:07 GMT
Gas is a piece of piss to work with.
Test point, manometer, soapy water JD.
Don't let the likes of the boiler man make you think it's the equivalent of working with plutonium.
You've a brain in yer Head, keep your £450 sheets in your pocket and ask on here if unsure.
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Post by quaysider on Dec 27, 2016 20:04:09 GMT
Gas is a piece of piss to work with. Test point, manometer, soapy water JD. Don't let the likes of the boiler man make you think it's the equivalent of working with plutonium. You've a brain in yer Head, keep your £450 sheets in your pocket and ask on here if unsure. you know what Gazza, I might just grow a pair and have a go - IF it leaks, presumably the bubble tester will alert me to it anyway. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2016 20:17:22 GMT
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Post by lollygagger on Dec 27, 2016 20:18:48 GMT
I did mine, same as you had the one long piece of pipe, replaced regulator, added bubble tester, plumbed in oven and hob.
Somewhere between MTB and "just get on with it" I'd say. Not something to rush, but hardly rocket science.
The bits will be under £100, I bet he forgot to price for the parts initially, so £350 labour. A professional would do it in an easy morning.
Unless he's cutting the worktop hole for hob, installing from scratch rather than just hooking it all up.
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Post by quaysider on Dec 27, 2016 20:52:53 GMT
go on then - give us a clue... WHAT do I do with that? .... I'm sure in science at school we had to "blow" into a manometer.... WHO knew what that would lead to later in life lol? |
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Post by quaysider on Dec 27, 2016 20:54:52 GMT
I did mine, same as you had the one long piece of pipe, replaced regulator, added bubble tester, plumbed in oven and hob. Somewhere between MTB and "just get on with it" I'd say. Not something to rush, but hardly rocket science. The bits will be under £100, I bet he forgot to price for the parts initially, so £350 labour. A professional would do it in an easy morning. Unless he's cutting the worktop hole for hob, installing from scratch rather than just hooking it all up. I've already cut the hole, put the hob in place and fitted the oven... and drilled out the holes in the gas locker to 19mm rather than the 2x 10mm the boat builder put in... for 350 quid labour for a mornings work I would expect a) sex and b) at least 1 cigarette to follow aforementioned |
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Post by Telemachus on Dec 27, 2016 20:54:59 GMT
Just for the record I've seen a lot of sensible and helpful advice from MTB. People get uppity when he asks "what regulations do you want to comply with" etc, but he is right - the rules are weird and a bit random so it is a good question to ask.
Anyway, I've been working with gas for years and never had a problem that a box of matches couldn't detect.
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Post by Telemachus on Dec 27, 2016 20:56:43 GMT
I did mine, same as you had the one long piece of pipe, replaced regulator, added bubble tester, plumbed in oven and hob. Somewhere between MTB and "just get on with it" I'd say. Not something to rush, but hardly rocket science. The bits will be under £100, I bet he forgot to price for the parts initially, so £350 labour. A professional would do it in an easy morning. Unless he's cutting the worktop hole for hob, installing from scratch rather than just hooking it all up. I've already cut the hole, put the hob in place and fitted the oven... and drilled out the holes in the gas locker to 19mm rather than the 2x 10mm the boat builder put in... for 350 quid labour for a mornings work I would expect a) sex and b) at least 1 cigarette to follow aforementioned Manometer? I think it is a bit like CWDF's greeny count but on Grindr. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2016 21:01:04 GMT
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Post by lollygagger on Dec 27, 2016 21:02:20 GMT
I already had all the tools and gas tape when I did mine. I've done a fair bit of gas including LPG converted engines - in campers, it's more worrying in a boat with no gas drop out.
MTB also has to be careful what he writes, being in the business. E.g. he'll know you can test for leaks with a lighter but he's hardly likely to say so, or do it, and would argue against it if someone else suggested it. Plumbers ALL did this when I were a lad. I've had good advice from him though, you know it's going to be safe advice.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2016 22:04:52 GMT
I already had all the tools and gas tape when I did mine. I've done a fair bit of gas including LPG converted engines - in campers, it's more worrying in a boat with no gas drop out. MTB also has to be careful what he writes, being in the business. E.g. he'll know you can test for leaks with a lighter but he's hardly likely to say so, or do it, and would argue against it if someone else suggested it. Plumbers ALL did this when I were a lad. I've had good advice from him though, you know it's going to be safe advice. I always test mine with a lighter, even though I fitted a bubble tester. The lighter just seems to reassure me. |
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Post by bodger on Dec 28, 2016 9:08:01 GMT
gas escaping from a bad pipe joint can safely be lit, AS LONG AS THERE IS NO ACCUMULATION OF GAS IN THE VICINITY. How do you know that is the case? Think about that before you use a match.
I was working on the BP Refinery in Kent and reported a leaking joint in a pipeline, that had ignited and was producing a jet of flame about 10 feet long. Several pipelines were set in a pipe track (lowered section of the ground), so that leaking gas would not cover the adjacent area where there were many inflammable products and equipment. The refinery fire department came out (in no hurry) and just watched the flame burn for 2 hours until there was no pressure left in the pipe (which had been isolated by the closest valves either side of the leaking joint.
There was no general alarm or other warning.
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