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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2016 23:23:42 GMT
If that was your aim then fair enough. Just tidy up some typos and spotted your reply. That would be a no I'm afraid. You win is an expression of exasperation. I thought I'd refrain from telling you to fuck off as you seem to react badly to that. Feel free fella, it's open house on here. just be prepared for a proportionate response. ps I do love it when somebody makes up an excuse to have the last word, even though they have said they are pulling out. That's one of the better ones though. |
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Post by Clinton Cool on Dec 30, 2016 23:25:51 GMT
What I'm thinking is: turn off the stop tap between the water tank and pump. Then; open all 4 taps, 2 each in sink and shower. Let water pump gurgle away for 10 or 20 seconds then kill it by flicking its dedicated switch off at the fuse board. Leave taps open. Oh, also pump water through the Thetford flush system until it fades. I don't have a calorifier. Is that everything covered? Sounds OK to me, no cauliflower is a bonus. Drain down your gas water heater. They suffer frost damage for fun. Take the shower head off as well. No effort required there! I never thought of the gas water heater. Is it best then to switch it on before turning on one of the hot water taps? |
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Post by jam on Dec 30, 2016 23:27:14 GMT
What I'm thinking is: turn off the stop tap between the water tank and pump. Then; open all 4 taps, 2 each in sink and shower. Let water pump gurgle away for 10 or 20 seconds then kill it by flicking its dedicated switch off at the fuse board. Leave taps open. Oh, also pump water through the Thetford flush system until it fades. I don't have a calorifier. Is that everything covered? Sounds good to me although I would suggest also disconnecting the filter adjacent to the pump so that any serious drop in temperature will not affect it, also ensure your accumulator is drained. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2016 9:03:56 GMT
Just tidy up some typos and spotted your reply. That would be a no I'm afraid. You win is an expression of exasperation. I thought I'd refrain from telling you to fuck off as you seem to react badly to that. Feel free fella, it's open house on here. just be prepared for a proportionate response. ps I do love it when somebody makes up an excuse to have the last word, even though they have said they are pulling out. That's one of the better ones though. Morning Martin. Have you been at the sherry again? I often tidy a post after I have replied Your post was incorrect so I thought I'd put you right before I went to the land of nod. Last word? Don't think so. There's also that lovely phrase 'like a dog with a bone'.... |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2016 9:08:58 GMT
Sounds OK to me, no cauliflower is a bonus. Drain down your gas water heater. They suffer frost damage for fun. Take the shower head off as well. No effort required there! I never thought of the gas water heater. Is it best then to switch it on before turning on one of the hot water taps? re read what you wrote, yes, get it nice and hot before you drain everything down. you need to drain it so there is no water in the heat exchanger. Is it a paloma? If so the drain is to the right of the water inlet pipe on the right hand side. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2016 9:53:46 GMT
Feel free fella, it's open house on here. just be prepared for a proportionate response. ps I do love it when somebody makes up an excuse to have the last word, even though they have said they are pulling out. That's one of the better ones though. Morning Martin. Have you been at the sherry again? I often tidy a post after I have replied Your post was incorrect so I thought I'd put you right before I went to the land of nod. Last word? Don't think so.There's also that lovely phrase 'like a dog with a bone'.... PMSL Nor was it incorrect Gazza. Every word I typed was true, accurate and 100% correct. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2016 10:00:42 GMT
Morning Martin. Have you been at the sherry again? I often tidy a post after I have replied Your post was incorrect so I thought I'd put you right before I went to the land of nod. Last word? Don't think so.There's also that lovely phrase 'like a dog with a bone'.... PMSL Nor was it incorrect Gazza. Every word I typed was true, accurate and 100% correct. You need a 1000 piece jigsaw of some baked beans with a couple of bits missing to keep you occupied. Of course it was incorrect, you seemed to think I was in some sort of competition with you when all I actually did was use a common phrase to describe exasperation with conversing with an idiot. You win. I'm out. Ricco, any more advice needed I'll gladly answer it, I'll leave Martin to it. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2016 10:09:37 GMT
PMSL Nor was it incorrect Gazza. Every word I typed was true, accurate and 100% correct. You need a 1000 piece jigsaw of some baked beans with a couple of bits missing to keep you occupied. Of course it was incorrect, you seemed to think I was in some sort of competition with you when all I actually did was use a common phrase to describe exasperation with conversing with an idiot. You win. I'm out. Ricco, any more advice needed I'll gladly answer it, I'll leave Martin to it. No it wasn't incorrect. You offered an opinion (nothing more nothing less) on the procedure I followed each winter with success. And on the procedure many other boaters follow without a single problem BTW. So I think you now calling it some sort of competition only exists in your mind. |
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Post by kris on Dec 31, 2016 10:10:13 GMT
Martin I think tomsk is always looking for an argument if you've still got an itch to scratch.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2016 10:18:16 GMT
Martin I think tomsk is still looking for an argument if you've still got an itch to scratch. No argument here. We were asked a question. Answers were given, I simply queried a point about a calorifier posted by Gazza, he was the first to refer to this as an 'argument' simply based on my daring to query the post he made. It's an internet forum lots of differing views often get given, it is then up to the OP to decide what advice they follow. It makes no odds to me if Ricco follows it or not, however as he has confirmed he hasn't even got a calorifier on his boat he clearly wont need to drain it so I dont even know why the issue has been resurrected this morning. |
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Post by kris on Dec 31, 2016 10:20:10 GMT
Sorry I should have used a smiley face, to denote humour.
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Post by Clinton Cool on Dec 31, 2016 12:17:19 GMT
My water heater is a Morco Ecoplus. Is there any way I can make sure it's emptied of water properly?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2016 12:23:46 GMT
My water heater is a Morco Ecoplus. Is there any way I can make sure it's emptied of water properly? Yup, look at the water inlet, there will be a hexagon headed plug with a slot in it, remove it after you've got it warm, do the rest of your system drain down once you have removed this and put it in a safe place. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2016 12:45:20 GMT
To answer the OP. The water tank itself would only be damaged if it was almost full and then froze. If there is room in the tank the ice/water mix will expand upwards as it turns solid. It's the same with milk bottles. If they freeze they can push the foil top off and produce a 'sausage' of milk from the top but the glass doesn't break. You could try corking a wine bottle of water and putting it (inside a bag) in the freezer. The cork will get pushed out and the glass won't shatter. As others have said, it's the pipes that are more likely to burst. I used to leave my house unheated over winter and the window cleaner told me that he couldn't clean the windows because the house was so cold that water froze to the glass. The temperature inside was below freezing but I never had a burst radiator. The mains was off and I drained the hot and cold water system but left the heating full. In later years I would leave the central heating on when I was at sea but on a low setting. House stat on 18 but radiators on frost setting.
On my boat it's very cold but I left the immersion heater on and it has used less than £20 of electricity in November and December. I don't know the exact figure but the meter has not run out. If the boat gets too cold I can switch a heater on by a text message.
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Post by Ditchcrawler on Dec 31, 2016 18:16:17 GMT
Martin it's getting tiresome arguing with you. You hit lucky. Ricco may not - just as we didn't at work, our kit is housed in a 20'container, remarkably similar to a canal boat tbh. All pipework was lagged to prevent operators burning themselves and help steam efficiency - we still ended up spending thousands putting it right for the want of opening some drain valves. No your pump will still have water in it, if you take the top off the strainer if you have one and then run it for several minuets that will draw air through the pump, but you need to leave very little water in it to damage it. Also thermostatic show valves seam high on the list for damage and of course gas water heaters. I knew of 3 cases of split cauliflowers a few years back. No amount of lagging in the world will work if its cold enough for long enough |
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