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Post by Telemachus on Jan 29, 2017 14:54:10 GMT
I wish the forum software numbered the posts in a thread. I am not prepared to quote it, but on page 7 (the way I have my settings) there is quite the nastiest post that I have ever seen on a forum. I believe it is an example of playing the man rather than the ball. I know that this forum is supposed to be self moderating but I don't like to read vitriol. Though at least the subject is here to fight his corner, unlike the person on CWDF who was the object of personal attacks in the very early days of Thunderboat. Yes .................. Kris on page 7 21 hours ago It was definitely an attack on the poster rather than an attack on the post. and I agree it was certainly "off". If that was the one aimed at me, no need to be concerned on my account. Nearly everything Kris says is like that so I am accustomed to it and it is water off a duck's back. The only person made to look bad is him, not me. It's a shame really because you never know, he might be quite a nice chap once his chip is dormant!
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Post by Telemachus on Jan 29, 2017 14:57:12 GMT
John what he actually said is people living on boats are doing so because they didn't pay attention at school and consequently haven't done well in life. I didn't say that, you are making it up. People living on boats have a wide spectrum of wealth and ability - obviously! Of course if you had paid attention at school you might be in a position to interpret the written word correctly and not have to fill in the gaps between the odd 3-letter words that you can read, with your own imagination.
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Post by Telemachus on Jan 29, 2017 14:59:22 GMT
Ps I've got some bad news for you Nick, if you pay council tax your already subsidising other people's children. Yes I know that. In fact it's worse, my parents paid for private education for me and my sister so they got bad value for money, and now I have to pay for all those kids to sit looking out of the window, not paying attention and flicking bits of paper at each other.
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Post by JohnV on Jan 29, 2017 15:37:55 GMT
John what he actually said is people living on boats are doing so because they didn't pay attention at school and consequently haven't done well in life. I didn't say that, you are making it up. People living on boats have a wide spectrum of wealth and ability - obviously! Of course if you had paid attention at school you might be in a position to interpret the written word correctly and not have to fill in the gaps between the odd 3-letter words that you can read, with your own imagination. You are now doing the same as Kris ...... FFS you are perfectly capable of replying in a cutting way at the post without sniping at the poster. You know you are factually correct so why get personal dammit !!! I enjoy a good argument ........ not insult hurling.
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Post by Telemachus on Jan 29, 2017 15:48:40 GMT
I didn't say that, you are making it up. People living on boats have a wide spectrum of wealth and ability - obviously! Of course if you had paid attention at school you might be in a position to interpret the written word correctly and not have to fill in the gaps between the odd 3-letter words that you can read, with your own imagination. You are now doing the same as Kris ...... FFS you are perfectly capable of replying in a cutting way at the post without sniping at the poster. You know you are factually correct so why get personal dammit !!! I enjoy a good argument ........ not insult hurling. Yeabut insults is the only thing Kris understands!
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Post by JohnV on Jan 29, 2017 15:51:09 GMT
You are now doing the same as Kris ...... FFS you are perfectly capable of replying in a cutting way at the post without sniping at the poster. You know you are factually correct so why get personal dammit !!! I enjoy a good argument ........ not insult hurling. Yeabut insults is the only thing Kris understands! Yeabutnobut ....... that post was replying to Gazza ...... not Kris !!! bollox ........ I've lost track bollox bollox bollox sorry !!!
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Post by smileypete on Jan 29, 2017 15:53:45 GMT
They may well enrich your lives but they often don't enrich mine - depends on whether the parents are letting them run around screaming whilst feigning deafness etc. Some kids are a pleasure to be with as you say. But my point remains that when you say "kids enrich our lives" you are saying "I want kids because they enrich my life" which is a selfish reason. I'm not sure if you meant "everybody's life" or "me and the misses life" but anyway, if you were, please don't speak for me on this matter. Anyway if you want to have kids that is fine, just don't expect me to consider you or any other parents to be heros for doing it, thus deserved of special treatment and/or funding from me. As for making out my life is somehow hollow because I don't have any kids, that is just you trying to con yourself into thinking you did the right thing. And also pretty harsh on those many people who would love to have kids but can't for various reasons. Unfortunately for you, if you want to enjoy the benefits of society including boats and canals, these were all built by people who were at one stage CHILDREN with the usual crying baby/whiny toddler phases of development!!! Best you can do is arrange your life as best you can to avoid these 'annoyances', failing that you just have to deal with it! Don't take this as an insult but were you an only kid or attended boarding school at one point? Both of which can be (tho by no means are guaranteed to be) isolating experiences.
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Post by naughtyfox on Jan 29, 2017 16:00:15 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2017 16:13:24 GMT
Yeabut insults is the only thing Kris understands! Yeabutnobut ....... that post was replying to Gazza ...... not Kris !!! bollox ........ I've lost track bollox bollox bollox sorry !!! Nick and I were mainly talking about shagging and the care of the elderly ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png)
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Post by kris on Jan 29, 2017 16:18:38 GMT
For the record id just like to point out, there is no rule on this forum about not playing the man. I think you all might be confusing thunderboat with another forum. Nick has been rude, insulting and condescending towards myself on numerous occasions on this and the other forum. So I have no qualms over telling him what I think of him. If you have a problem with that don't read the thread. I don't have any children and don't want any. But I don't bear a grudge against people who do have them. The same as I don't hold a grudge against people who live on boats, even if they have the cheek to expect to do this on the western K&A or even London. Nor do I buy into Crt's propaganda about overstaying being the huge problem that some people try to make it out to be. I'm also aware of the way crt persecute people with a valid reason for overstaying. I think that crt have to obey the statutes the same as boaters and I reserve the right to call anybody who says otherwise a fuckwit. People like Nick that think the ends justify the means as far as crt are concerned can fuck off as far as I'm concerned. They are part of the problem not the solution and have no concern about the fear and anxiety crt's illegal actions have on the lives of numerous people.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2017 16:34:35 GMT
Having read that thread I'm glad to be posting over here - I may disagree with some people but at least I don't get zapped!
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Post by JohnV on Jan 29, 2017 16:50:11 GMT
Having read that thread I'm glad to be posting over here - I may disagree with some people but at least I don't get zapped! ![](//storage.proboards.com/6491729/thumbnailer/Iqc9X9olNljBTsI8ta_k.gif) of course there is being zapped and there is being zapped !!!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2017 16:59:30 GMT
L'enfer c'est les autres ,Hell is other people. I'd modify this to 'hell is other people's children" I hate children (personal production of2 units excepted). But if you took things to the logical conclusion then there would be no replacements and people would just die out. "So what?" You might say but with the dying out would come horribly unpleasant shit which nobody likes. I don't like it when people are at it like steam hammers and produce half a dozen infant units that seems all wrong but 1 or two seems sensible to keep the race going. And kris - I get the impression nicknorman is just trying to wind you up ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png) don't rise to it would be my suggestion.
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Post by Telemachus on Jan 29, 2017 17:24:40 GMT
For the record id just like to point out, there is no rule on this forum about not playing the man. I think you all might be confusing thunderboat with another forum. Nick has been rude, insulting and condescending towards myself on numerous occasions on this and the other forum. So I have no qualms over telling him what I think of him. If you have a problem with that don't read the thread. I don't have any children and don't want any. But I don't bear a grudge against people who do have them. The same as I don't hold a grudge against people who live on boats, even if they have the cheek to expect to do this on the western K&A or even London. Nor do I buy into Crt's propaganda about overstaying being the huge problem that some people try to make it out to be. I'm also aware of the way crt persecute people with a valid reason for overstaying. I think that crt have to obey the statutes the same as boaters and I reserve the right to call anybody who says otherwise a fuckwit. People like Nick that think the ends justify the means as far as crt are concerned can fuck off as far as I'm concerned. They are part of the problem not the solution and have no concern about the fear and anxiety crt's illegal actions have on the lives of numerous people. I rather think you enjoy being outraged by me - you certainly strive to be outraged where no reason for it exists. I don't have a grudge against folk with children. Just I don't think they should get special treatment. I don't have a grudge against folk who live on boats - anywhere. Why would I? Mostly, I don't think CRT persecute people with a valid reason for overstaying. But the key is "valid" and since you idea of a valid reason is "oh I must spend a year or so rebuilding my boat virtually from scratch" then you are always going to be disappointed with CRT's more mainstream idea of "valid". Yes I'll agree that CRT should abide by the statutes but then again, it mostly wouldn't be an issue if it weren't for the pisstakers. Getting vaguely back on topic, whether or not you think overstaying is an issue doesn't matter too much since many people do think it is (probably not many on the desolate stretches of the L&L though). I think it is an issue in some places and as I've taken pains to repeatedly point out, it is also what would happen in the future if there were no control over moorings. And thus the process of issuing patrol notices is a valid and necessary one, with the caveat that there is definitely room for improvement in the logging system so that false positives can be avoided.
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Post by kris on Jan 29, 2017 17:31:26 GMT
Nick your a fuckwit.
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