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Post by Mr Stabby on Feb 22, 2017 18:04:40 GMT
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Post by loafer on Feb 22, 2017 18:30:17 GMT
Blimey. I hope it was a terrorist.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2017 18:33:32 GMT
Can't have been much of a laugh for the deceased!
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Post by phil70 on Feb 22, 2017 18:36:34 GMT
Even less of a laugh for the skipper. Phil
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Post by thebfg on Feb 22, 2017 19:15:28 GMT
I suppose it's a tough hard wait to find out if he killed him or her was already dead.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Feb 22, 2017 20:12:48 GMT
I suppose it's a tough hard wait to find out if he killed him or her was already dead. I'm guessing he had been dead in the water a long time before the boater chugged along.
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Post by naughtyfox on Feb 22, 2017 20:45:33 GMT
It's the Manchester Pusher again!
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Post by Mr Stabby on Feb 22, 2017 20:50:51 GMT
It's the Manchester Pusher again! There surely has to come a point where even the Keystone Kops can see a pattern. I think their reluctance to take it seriously is because a disproportionate number of victims are homosexual, and homosexual murders in Manchester are viewed in pretty much the same way as prostitute murders were twenty years ago, namely "Well what do you expect if you get up to that sort of thing? What do you expect us to do?"
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Post by Delta9 on Feb 22, 2017 23:34:15 GMT
You would think that if there really was a 'pusher' that at least one of their victims would have survived and mentioned to the police that someone tried to kill them.
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Post by patty on Feb 23, 2017 8:47:08 GMT
Pretty awful thing to find...dunno how the people who have to clear up after these horrible gruesome events cope...I had a really strong stomach at work but I could never deal with body parts coming apart especially if they are decomposing
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Post by Mr Stabby on Feb 23, 2017 8:54:01 GMT
You would think that if there really was a 'pusher' that at least one of their victims would have survived and mentioned to the police that someone tried to kill them. In a way I would agree, except that there don't seem to be a similar number of incidents in any other conurbation with a canal system, e.g. London, Birmingham. So the possibility exists that if the acts are deliberate then the attacker is adept at selecting victims who, for whatever reason, would be unlikely to seek police involvement should they survive.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2017 8:56:04 GMT
Wake up to what?
That there is an open water course through the centre of an area noted for very heavy drinking and occasionally wild and loutish behaviour?
It's terribly sad that many young people die in this way, but inventing a 'bogey man' doesn't advance things one jot.
And if there is a high proportion of gay men involved (and I've not seen information to that effect) it would not be overly surprising, given that Canal Street is one of the first, and largest centres of gay bars in europe.
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Post by Saltysplash on Feb 23, 2017 12:34:39 GMT
You would think that if there really was a 'pusher' that at least one of their victims would have survived and mentioned to the police that someone tried to kill them. In a way I would agree, except that there don't seem to be a similar number of incidents in any other conurbation with a canal system, e.g. London, Birmingham. So the possibility exists that if the acts are deliberate then the attacker is adept at selecting victims who, for whatever reason, would be unlikely to seek police involvement should they survive. The Thames through London must have a pusher as well then, Average of 68 a year.
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Post by mischief on Feb 23, 2017 13:20:23 GMT
I have to say that the press are very good at making things seem worse than they are. The clothing was tangled in the propeller, not the unfortunate gentleman and the victim was not involved in a fight any time recent to the discovery. The ambulance and paramedics were sent to make sure the skipper was ok, he was and still is deeply shocked. He has however returned to work with a lot of support from his boss and colleagues.
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Post by thebfg on Feb 23, 2017 13:37:40 GMT
I have to say that the press are very good at making things seem worse than they are. The clothing was tangled in the propeller, not the unfortunate gentleman and the victim was not involved in a fight any time recent to the discovery. The ambulance and paramedics were sent to make sure the skipper was ok, he was and still is deeply shocked. He has however returned to work with a lot of support from his boss and colleagues. So when they quoted obviously deceased. It was obvious by being dead for some time. Rather than his head and been cut off by the propellor. Thanks for the clear info.
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