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Post by naughtyfox on Apr 13, 2017 7:19:15 GMT
There was talk here recently about fly-tipping and I came across this article in the Private Eye 24 March - 6 April edition, thought it was relevant and interesting: By reducing council reuse-tip opening hours and putting up charges, local authorities have made it more difficult and expensive for people to get rid of building and household waste. Farmers report that this has caused a surge in illegal fly-tipping in their fields as offenders, fearful of being caught on CCTV cameras, tip less in urban areas and more on remote farmland where they run less risk of being caught. According to latest government figures, in England alone there were 936,000 instances of fly-tipping in the year 2015-16. These figures do not include fly-tipping on farmland, which is not recorded because it occurs on private property. But the figures confirm the trend, with tipping on footpaths and bridleways up 8% on the year before, and down 6.7% in urban back alleyways. Rural fly-tipping is also increasing in scale. Last month, Graham Walker of Manor Farm, Draycott in north Staffordshire found 39 tonnes of shredded plastic dumped in his field. Not only had his padlock been cut, but a gatepost had been flattened to achieve entry. Worse, because the waste was dumped on private land, the local authority washed its hands of responsibility and Walker had to pay £6,000 to have the waste taken away and his field cleaned up. Unsurprisingly, farmers want offenders fined more heavily as a deterrent. Will Dickinson of the National Farmers Union points to the inadequacy of current penalties. In a court case last year taken up by the Woodland Trust, a fly-tipper was fined £200 - "£100 less than it would have cost that man to hire a skip," says Dickinson. He calls for punitive, exemplary fines. "We must make sure the people who do this don't see fines as an occupational hazard, or, frankly, an irrelevance." www.leek-news.co.uk/farmer-dumped-with-bill-for-pound-6k/story-30135313-detail/story.htmlwww.fwi.co.uk/news/farmer-faces-6000-bill-clear-fly-tipped-waste.htm |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2017 7:48:08 GMT
There was talk here recently about fly-tipping and I came across this article in the Private Eye 24 March - 6 April edition, thought it was relevant and interesting: By reducing council reuse-tip opening hours and putting up charges, local authorities have made it more difficult and expensive for people to get rid of building and household waste. Farmers report that this has caused a surge in illegal fly-tipping in their fields as offenders, fearful of being caught on CCTV cameras, tip less in urban areas and more on remote farmland where they run less risk of being caught. According to latest government figures, in England alone there were 936,000 instances of fly-tipping in the year 2015-16. These figures do not include fly-tipping on farmland, which is not recorded because it occurs on private property. But the figures confirm the trend, with tipping on footpaths and bridleways up 8% on the year before, and down 6.7% in urban back alleyways. Rural fly-tipping is also increasing in scale. Last month, Graham Walker of Manor Farm, Draycott in north Staffordshire found 39 tonnes of shredded plastic dumped in his field. Not only had his padlock been cut, but a gatepost had been flattened to achieve entry. Worse, because the waste was dumped on private land, the local authority washed its hands of responsibility and Walker had to pay £6,000 to have the waste taken away and his field cleaned up. Unsurprisingly, farmers want offenders fined more heavily as a deterrent. Will Dickinson of the National Farmers Union points to the inadequacy of current penalties. In a court case last year taken up by the Woodland Trust, a fly-tipper was fined £200 - "£100 less than it would have cost that man to hire a skip," says Dickinson. He calls for punitive, exemplary fines. "We must make sure the people who do this don't see fines as an occupational hazard, or, frankly, an irrelevance." www.leek-news.co.uk/farmer-dumped-with-bill-for-pound-6k/story-30135313-detail/story.htmlwww.fwi.co.uk/news/farmer-faces-6000-bill-clear-fly-tipped-waste.htmMy OH was turned away from the Luton tip because her village was a stone's throw outside the Luton borough council. She had to take the bags to Dunstable (where they didn't check her ID!). This is what happens when things become too black or white... |
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Post by patty on Apr 13, 2017 8:46:29 GMT
I regularly visit the Tip..in fact could be said to be my weekly Sunday 'treat'  ...I observe the way people are treated by increasingly dominant 'jobs worth' individuals and mourn for the impending los s of our green and pleasant land..last Sunday I viewed one man with 'minder' either side having to sort through his black bin bags to recycle stuff..he did not have gloves and on 'elf n safety' issue I thought pretty grim.....I was actually relieved I wouldn't be his wife cos bet he went home in a foul mood. The workmen there regularly turn 'unlicensed' vans away with mattresses etc inside..so rural way home no doubt and lob over fence.... In order to get a license you have to live in the area and take proof of address. I sometimes now hesitate before I order stuff for work on house if I have concern over how to get rid of what has to go. The people before me lobbed everything into a compost heap and over the fence..Im still trying to sort out that environmental hazard. the narrow minded cost cutting councils are paving the way for a walk in the countryside to no longer be a pleasant experience..we will reap what to-days society sew by turning our land toxic. I recycle everything but I had one small sack non recyclable and walking to the table for supervised examination of products contained within i felt quite anxious....however their faces on viewing my stinking collection dog poo bags plus non recyclable products a treasure to behold....I was allowed through...I always ensure gloves in my pockets. |
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Post by phil70 on Apr 13, 2017 9:29:40 GMT
We have arrived at a ludicrous state of affairs haven't we.
I had a gas cooker to get rid of but council would not take it, the only dump was some 30 miles away so........ I deconstructed the cooker and placed all the bits in my recycling bin which the council happily took away.
Phil
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Post by Jim on Apr 13, 2017 13:38:31 GMT
How much of this is down to the tips being privatised? Our local one is now managed by a private waste management company. They aren't too strict, mind, no ID checks, but stuff does have to go in the right skip, to be recycled or whatever. They also sell compost, made from the green waste they collect. 3 big bags £11, rich black stuff it is too.
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Post by naughtyfox on Apr 13, 2017 15:40:44 GMT
Why not just take your rubbish round to the Town Hall and dump it on the Mayor's desk?
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Post by tonyb on Apr 13, 2017 16:46:07 GMT
How much of this is down to the tips being privatised? Our local one is now managed by a private waste management company. They aren't too strict, mind, no ID checks, but stuff does have to go in the right skip, to be recycled or whatever. They also sell compost, made from the green waste they collect. 3 big bags £11, rich black stuff it is too. Just be wary with that. You my well be importing un-degraded weedkiller and various noxious weeds etc from cooler areas of the process that may not have sterilised the waste. I find far too much weed growth in modern multi-purpose compost that has a high percentage of recycled garden waste and have had a few occasions of no germination at all that I put down to residual weed killer. |
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Post by Jim on Apr 13, 2017 16:51:29 GMT
How much of this is down to the tips being privatised? Our local one is now managed by a private waste management company. They aren't too strict, mind, no ID checks, but stuff does have to go in the right skip, to be recycled or whatever. They also sell compost, made from the green waste they collect. 3 big bags £11, rich black stuff it is too. Just be wary with that. You my well be importing un-degraded weedkiller and various noxious weeds etc from cooler areas of the process that may not have sterilised the waste. I find far too much weed growth in modern multi-purpose compost that has a high percentage of recycled garden waste and have had a few occasions of no germination at all that I put down to residual weed killer. I will keep an eye on it,thanks. However it looks like it's been well cooked by the composting process, hotter than my own compost bins get. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2017 16:53:32 GMT
Just remember that it's us, the great British public that does the fly tipping, litter dropping, canal dumping, car burning out, fridge in hedge bottom, and graffiti.
The solution is in our hands. If we all ensure we aren't litter louts, and ensure our family and friends aren't, perhaps one day we'll enjoy a better environment.
To complain about councils and dumpit site rules, is really putting the cart before the horse.
Rog
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...I observe the way people are treated by increasingly dominant 'jobs worth' individuals and mourn for the impending los
