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Post by Mr Stabby on Jul 8, 2017 15:42:17 GMT
Here's a video walkaround of a Springer narrowboat from the ever-loved and trustworthy Whilton Marina.
At 4:46 the salesman states that the skin fittings need to be a minimum of 10" above the waterline, otherwise the boat will not be insurable, and the surveyor will "fail" it. This is news to me, as my skin fittings are around 2" at most above the waterline and have been since it was built 31 years ago, the surveyor didn't mention it at all, and my insurer, who wanted a copy of the survey due to Desiree's age didn't raise any queries about her insurability.
I thought the 10" thing applied solely to hire boats. Any comments or suggestions welcome.
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Post by lollygagger on Jul 8, 2017 15:50:16 GMT
They can be under water so that's bullshit.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2017 15:51:20 GMT
I've heard of the 10 inch thing but its not very practical. Maybe it applies to hull penetrations which are capable of sinking the boat, like air cooling holes for old Lister engines for example. My first narrow boat had a Lister SR2 and a surveyor did suggest that the rectangular holes cut in the side of the boat were moved up, which I think was a good move.
I suppose a skin fitting could get wiped off by rubbing a lock wall but unless someone was completely clueless I can't really see it being a big risk.
If that was a requirement then on a lot of boats you'd have to use a sump and a pump for sinks rather than gravity overboard discharge.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2017 15:53:57 GMT
Cue the "Whilton marina are bastard thieving scoundrel con artists anyway"* type comments.
* this comment is intended for comedic effect, it is not my personal opinion or that of this forum.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Jul 8, 2017 16:01:11 GMT
Cue the "Whilton marina are bastard thieving scoundrel con artists anyway"* type comments. * this comment is intended for comedic effect, it is not my personal opinion or that of this forum. Whilton Marina's sister marina is Venetian Marina, and I did once read that the reason it is called "Venetian" is that you would have to be blind to buy a boat from them.
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Post by peterboat on Jul 8, 2017 17:00:27 GMT
I have skin fittings in this boat which are about 6 inches above the waterline and as we all know the bathtub had them below the waterline!!! These will be sorted shortly
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Post by naughtyfox on Jul 8, 2017 21:46:15 GMT
I saw that bloke on several Whilton Marina Youtube videos and thought he was a bit 'iffy'. Venetian Marina - we called in for Calor gas 3 weeks ago and were surprised at how friendly and helpful they were. Where's Thunderboat's very own BSS bloke Nigel Carton? Someone pull him out of the pub!
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Post by tonyb on Jul 9, 2017 6:45:57 GMT
The 10" thing is in the BSS for the hire boat category. Its advised as best practice for private craft.
The BSS and best practice then goes on to explain that if a skin fitting is too low as long as what it is fitted to it runs upwards for 10" above the water line its acceptable. Further best practice suggests metal pipes or at least double clipped "rubber" ones plus a cock on the skin fitting itself.
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Post by bodger on Jul 9, 2017 7:24:34 GMT
all adequately covered by the RCD requirements covering 'downflooding'.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2017 18:18:06 GMT
No problem for skin fittings on or below the waterline on private boats.
Would be a bit difficult to draw engine cooling water, flush water and discharge the heads if the fittings were 10" above the waterline. Our exhaust exits underwater too 👍
I know of several narrow boats identically equiped as our boat.
Ignore it, load of bollocks.
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Post by bodger on Jul 9, 2017 18:45:41 GMT
No problem for skin fittings on or below the waterline on private boats. Would be a bit difficult to draw engine cooling water, flush water and discharge the heads if the fittings were 10" above the waterline. Our exhaust exits underwater too 👍 I know of several narrow boats identically equiped as our boat. Ignore it, load of bollocks. few narrowboats have those arrangements. do you know of any narrowboats on the canal system that discharge the heads into the cut? .................... if so, please name and shame.
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Post by naughtyfox on Jul 9, 2017 20:08:21 GMT
We thought about those Nene swimmers being passed by gazza's boat at flushing time...
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Post by naughtyfox on Jul 9, 2017 20:09:20 GMT
I bet all narrowboaters wee in the shower.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2017 21:21:35 GMT
No problem for skin fittings on or below the waterline on private boats. Would be a bit difficult to draw engine cooling water, flush water and discharge the heads if the fittings were 10" above the waterline. Our exhaust exits underwater too 👍 I know of several narrow boats identically equiped as our boat. Ignore it, load of bollocks. few narrowboats have those arrangements. do you know of any narrowboats on the canal system that discharge the heads into the cut? .................... if so, please name and shame. No I don't, I know of those that are allowed to discharge into the river though.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2017 21:22:04 GMT
We thought about those Nene swimmers being passed by gazza's boat at flushing time... The TWATS 👍
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