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Post by bodger on Jul 26, 2017 22:02:05 GMT
it only runs near capacity at peak times. car charging will generally avoid peak times (about 7am to 9am and 5pm to 10pm), and suitable off-peak tariffs (like storage heaters used to use) for car charging overnight will not require any additional generating capacity; actually it will make the current generation capacity more utilised and more efficient overall. There will be a surge in demand as people arrive home from work and plug their cars in, much like when people put the kettle on in the ad break in corrie...most experts seem to be agreeing that this could be an issue. programmed timingAnd how do you charge a car parked on the street, we'll be fine as we have a drive but millions do not. run a cable across the pavement - it's often seen in London. just needs the council to arrange dedicated parking spaces outside homes on request and payment. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2017 22:06:44 GMT
There will be a surge in demand as people arrive home from work and plug their cars in, much like when people put the kettle on in the ad break in corrie...most experts seem to be agreeing that this could be an issue. programmed timingAnd how do you charge a car parked on the street, we'll be fine as we have a drive but millions do not. run a cable across the pavement - it's often seen in London. just needs the council to arrange dedicated parking spaces outside homes on request and payment.Stop talking bollocks Bodger, you are looking silly, wires across pavements are a recipe for disaster in the current culture of health and safety for a kick off. It might be done in some places but do you seriously believe when it's the universal way of fuelling your car its going to be the acceptable way of doing it? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2017 22:17:46 GMT
Some expert stated earlier that we would need a minimum of 5 new power stations to provide the extra power. A few things with that, nuclear, coal or gas? Then each one will take ten years of arguing over planning what with the greens objecting etc. It's all bollocks this. Gove is just doing his usual vacant brain impression, and breaking wind to the BBC who love it. Meanwhile, in a few days time, some piece of shit legislation will have been passed by hiding it behind this crap.
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Post by peterboat on Jul 26, 2017 22:40:44 GMT
I'm aware of trains that run not on tracks. A vehicle that can run on tracks and convert to road within minutes already exists. If you could solve the extra sopping distance for running on rails and almost instantaneous switching of points then you might have a solution - I doubt this would ever happen though, more likely to have 'under road electric charging' similar to the fancy gadgets that you can charge by just placing them near to the charger. Yes but why have rails, when a train can follow a painted white line.? I think the charging solution lies somewhere close to your suggestion though, my phone does this, somehow this needs to be scaled up so you can drive over a charging pad in the street. They developed this 2 years ago both Merc and VW sell cars already equipped. You all really need to look at websites for electric vehicles to find out how far forward they already are |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2017 23:04:47 GMT
Yes but why have rails, when a train can follow a painted white line.? I think the charging solution lies somewhere close to your suggestion though, my phone does this, somehow this needs to be scaled up so you can drive over a charging pad in the street. They developed this 2 years ago both Merc and VW sell cars already equipped. You all really need to look at websites for electric vehicles to find out how far forward they already are Drive over pad charging may indeed be available on vehicles, the point of the sceptics amongst us Peter is when/If the corresponding technology will be available on a street near us. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2017 23:13:05 GMT
They developed this 2 years ago both Merc and VW sell cars already equipped. You all really need to look at websites for electric vehicles to find out how far forward they already are Drive over pad charging may indeed be available on vehicles, the point of the sceptics amongst us Peter is when/If the corresponding technology will be available on a street near us. When they acquire huge car parking facilities with charging points within walking distance of your house. There won't be on street parking. It will be multi story parking at the end of each street. The pavements will be walkalators, and the Chinese will be supplying all the leccy at 90p a kWh. |
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Post by bodger on Jul 27, 2017 7:32:38 GMT
Stop talking bollocks Bodger, you are looking silly, wires across pavements are a recipe for disaster in the current culture of health and safety for a kick off. It might be done in some places but do you seriously believe when it's the universal way of fuelling your car its going to be the acceptable way of doing it? it happens. get out and look. AFAIK no-one has been hurt so far. of course it can be refined and made safer, but it will happen. |
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Post by bodger on Jul 27, 2017 7:35:17 GMT
Some expert stated earlier that we would need a minimum of 5 new power stations to provide the extra power. some expert this morning on BBC news stated that most of the charging will be done off-peak and no additional generating capacity is needed. ............. I was also surprised to hear from another expert that hybrid cars will be allowed, so the message has come out a bit garbled. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2017 8:19:23 GMT
Stop talking bollocks Bodger, you are looking silly, wires across pavements are a recipe for disaster in the current culture of health and safety for a kick off. It might be done in some places but do you seriously believe when it's the universal way of fuelling your car its going to be the acceptable way of doing it? it happens. get out and look. AFAIK no-one has been hurt so far. of course it can be refined and made safer, but it will happen. I didn't say it doesn't happen, I am saying given the small number of cars that ate charged by the mains that are currently in use people probably get away with it. When everybody has a car that needs charging in this way it simply won't be safe to have mains cables draped across the footpath every few meters or so. Our council start getting agitated if your trees overgrows a footpath, gawd knows what they'd say about electricity cables running across the pavement..... |
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Post by naughtyfox on Jul 27, 2017 8:35:55 GMT
Let's all trip over those cables and sue the home owner and the Council for allowing it!
I've twisted my ankle, 6 months off work!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2017 9:48:39 GMT
Some expert stated earlier that we would need a minimum of 5 new power stations to provide the extra power. ............. I was also surprised to hear from another expert that hybrid cars will be allowed, so the message has come out a bit garbled. They appear to be correct... www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/industry/hybrids-exempt-britains-petrol-and-diesel-car-banOnly electrified cars and vans will be sold from new in the UK from 2040, the government has announced in a paper published by the Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs (DEFRA).
The move is part of a £2.7bn blueprint for tackling air pollution, and is consistent with the Government’s election manifesto. The ban won't affect cars with hybrid and plug-in hybrid drivetrains, but rather "conventional petrol and diesel cars". |
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