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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2021 20:09:11 GMT
A minor disaster yesterday - caused by a small prick with a screw...... 🙈 Our house has suffered a little at the hands of less than skilled tradesmen - when the heating was done in 2009 they must have used a road hammer to get the floorboards up, as a result we have a few squeaky boards on the landing - no problem, I’ll pop a few screws in. Only trouble was I started where the dickheads had left a couple of nails out, no reason to suspect there would be water pipes running directly below as it should have been the continuation of the joist...... Bugger! Assumption being the mother of all cock ups etc 🤬 Oh well. Roll your sleeves up and sort it out boy! Luckily I had a pair of solder ring 3/4 x 22mm couplers along with a length of 22mm pipe - as it’s a mix of imperial and metric in this house not every job is straight forward! The cut off 3/4 on the right is a redundant feed to a long gone hot water cylinder, lazy bastards have stripped nothing out 😩 I hit that one first, as it was a dead leg it wasn’t noticeable at all - the next one with 3 bar behind it soon made its presence known! All this just as the plasterer arrived; luckily my neighbour kindly allowed us to put the garden hose on his outside tap so the spread could carry on while I set about putting it right 🤗 I’ve still a little to do under there - 3/4 pipe with the 22mm compression coupler (bodged with ptfe to take up the slack) next to my repair is the old open vent into the loft tank, it’s capped off over the tank where it’s it should have a stop end in the 22mm branch under the floor - I haven’t got a 22mm pushfit stop end in stock, it’s got to be push fit for ease of fitting due to the crap way they have teed into the hot water circuit. here is the mess they have made of the floorboards - all bar the ones under the door jambs are not far off firewood, the whole lot needs replacing, it will give me a chance to see where the pipes are though! Super thick underlay and carpet did a good job of hiding that horror. One step forward two back! On the plus side Guy the god is worth every penny - glass smooth ceilings all done downstairs, this is the living room which isn’t yet fully dry - two bedrooms and the landing to do 👍 Then it’s decorating 😩 Been there done this^^^^ and got the wet T shirt My brother made me smile - was talking to him about it today, Guy the spread said to me can you fix that, my reply to him was ‘Oh yes mate, the only trades we don’t tackle are yours and bricklaying’ my brother is a sparks and is in total agreement; a lot of nasty work by other trades is neatly hidden or made to disappear with things like caulk or paint. No hiding from shit plaster or brickwork; it’s there for all to see for as long as it stands!
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Post by patty on Jul 21, 2021 20:19:42 GMT
oops.. may need to show eldest son this as hes about to embark on an exploration of what lies beneath his floorboards.....and he has no knowledge of DIY!
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Post by mouse on Jul 21, 2021 20:38:58 GMT
I have seen floorboards in much better condition than that in old terraced houses that have been plumbed and wired several times after initial build! The plumber must have turned up on a horse rather than in the usual Transit van! The sparks was well modern, turned up on a bicycle with a bundle of conduit tied to the bike, he even had a hammer and a Rawl drill!
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Post by JohnV on Jul 21, 2021 20:48:17 GMT
The plumber must have turned up on a horse rather than in the usual Transit van! The sparks was well modern, turned up on a bicycle with a bundle of conduit tied to the bike, he even had a hammer and a Rawl drill! was that the 3/4" stuff with the pressed tin corners ? did he buy those shop made back boxes or make his own out of bits of matchboarding ?
If he had a rawl drill did he use the long fibrous rawl plugs you chopped of for length or did he prefer the three dead matches instead
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Post by Trina on Jul 21, 2021 20:55:28 GMT
Our new house is only 20 years old(compared to our old sturdy Edwardian villa).You would not believe how many things they tried to glue instead of screw,how many bits they ignored.Luckily,they had a new boiler,new windows,patio doors & all the fittings replaced in 2017.So mostly,our changes have been cosmetic-new bathrooms,new kitchen,total redecoration & new flooring.It's a lovely house in a lovely place but why oh why did the folk buy a new house then do very little to it ?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2021 20:57:57 GMT
oops.. may need to show eldest son this as hes about to embark on an exploration of what lies beneath his floorboards.....and he has no knowledge of DIY! Oscillating Multi tool is the thing to get floors up; chop the tongue out, nip across the width of the board at a suitable point and they come up and go back down easy. This is the bit of kit Sparks used to use. I nearly brought one on eBay just for the hell of it, Multi tool does that job and much more beside and I already had one so I saw sense in the end!
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Post by mouse on Jul 21, 2021 21:03:53 GMT
The sparks was well modern, turned up on a bicycle with a bundle of conduit tied to the bike, he even had a hammer and a Rawl drill! was that the 3/4" stuff with the pressed tin corners ?
If he had a rawl drill did he use the long fibrous rawl plugs you chopped of for length or did he prefer the three dead matches instead I think they called that conduit tin whistle conduit. And he used three dead matches as he was a heavy smoker and couldn't afford the fibre rawl plugs! I only ever used those when fitting storage heaters. plastic rawl plugs didnt hold well!
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Post by mouse on Jul 21, 2021 21:06:46 GMT
oops.. may need to show eldest son this as hes about to embark on an exploration of what lies beneath his floorboards.....and he has no knowledge of DIY! Oscillating Multi tool is the thing to get floors up; chop the tongue out, nip across the width of the board at a suitable point and they come up and go back down easy. This is the bit of kit Sparks used to use. I nearly brought one on eBay just for the hell of it, Multi tool does that job and much more beside and I already had one so I saw sense in the end! Have used one of those when I worked for Jack H. Hand operating lever not shown in photo!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2021 21:08:02 GMT
Our new house is only 20 years old(compared to our old sturdy Edwardian villa).You would not believe how many things they tried to glue instead of screw,how many bits they ignored.Luckily,they had a new boiler,new windows,patio doors & all the fittings replaced in 2017.So mostly,our changes have been cosmetic-new bathrooms,new kitchen,total redecoration & new flooring.It's a lovely house in a lovely place but why oh why did the folk buy a new house then do very little to it ? Strange isn’t it? Most likely the highest value asset they have and they treat it like crap. Here it’s the previous occupiers ambition over talent that needs putting right; getting there bit by bit though 👍🤗
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2021 21:12:25 GMT
Oscillating Multi tool is the thing to get floors up; chop the tongue out, nip across the width of the board at a suitable point and they come up and go back down easy. This is the bit of kit Sparks used to use. I nearly brought one on eBay just for the hell of it, Multi tool does that job and much more beside and I already had one so I saw sense in the end! Have used one of those when I worked for Jack H. Hand operating lever not shown in photo! Ear plugs and a multi tool certainly the easy option these days 👍🤪🍻
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Post by patty on Jul 22, 2021 4:22:21 GMT
Hopefully he will let me come and help yesterday afternoon youngest son and i put shelf up in his van..I like a bit of DIY.
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Post by patty on Jul 22, 2021 4:24:56 GMT
Our new house is only 20 years old(compared to our old sturdy Edwardian villa).You would not believe how many things they tried to glue instead of screw,how many bits they ignored.Luckily,they had a new boiler,new windows,patio doors & all the fittings replaced in 2017.So mostly,our changes have been cosmetic-new bathrooms,new kitchen,total redecoration & new flooring.It's a lovely house in a lovely place but why oh why did the folk buy a new house then do very little to it ? my sis had a house built some 30 years ago...just changing the kitchen now. Her hubby cannot cope with the mess of any home improvements so has refused to get anything done until its so bad it has to be. Her carpets are awful.
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Post by JohnV on Jul 26, 2021 7:23:16 GMT
While I was nailing Triton together Northern Star was hauled out and pressure washed off. Today we set to with the seized rudder, I got my mate to slice through the rudder stock with a 9" grinder so I can take the rudder to work and use it as a template. I think the 9" grinder was a bit of a handful for my mate it did highlight that the lower pivot bush is actually naval brass/bronze so has saved me a fair bit of time, all that is needed is to hold the bush in the lathe, munch it out to 1" and Bobs yer uncle! The rudder stock was extremely reluctant to knock through the bottom of the boat. The lower through hull bush came free as the brass tube it sits in made a break for freedom along with the rudder stock Thankfully with a bit of support and plenty of judicious walloping we managed to get the shaft out, clean the bush and hull up and knock the tube back in place, it's been resealed and screwed into a fresh bit of the boat having been rotated 45° Plenty to do at work, most of which will benefit from pictures rather than me waffling on Been revisiting Gazza's post of ...... Hell !!! nearly 5 years ago when he re-vamped Northern Star's steering as I have been working on Shapfells seized steering. I would love to do the whole hog that he did there but I like the engineering skills for that. Shapfell I'm afraid will be just repaired.
The bottom bush was the problem on Shapfell as well. Completely seized solid and beyond the normal WD40 and brute force correction methods. Fortunately it seems it had been removed at some time as it was fastened in with metric stainless nuts and bolts still difficult to remove as multiple meetings with the bottom had peened the excess thread over the nuts, but eventually they came off. Inside the bottom bush was what I believe had been a ball bearing to act as a pivot point but it was basically just a small ball of rust.
I haven't yet decided what I am going to do as regards repair but I'll have a think ..... probably just emery papering off the rust and loads of copperslip would do for a few years but I would like to think out something a bit better.
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Post by Jim on Jul 26, 2021 11:23:44 GMT
Have used one of those when I worked for Jack H. Hand operating lever not shown in photo! Ear plugs and a multi tool certainly the easy option these days 👍🤪🍻 Cutting floorboards - snap a jigsaw blade so it only goes to depth of floorboard, cut down the tongue or across the board without worry.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2021 12:41:45 GMT
Ear plugs and a multi tool certainly the easy option these days 👍🤪🍻 Cutting floorboards - snap a jigsaw blade so it only goes to depth of floorboard, cut down the tongue or across the board without worry. Or I use a very cute 3"circular saw max cut depth 20mm cuts floorboards a treat😎
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