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Post by quaysider on Sept 12, 2017 13:59:01 GMT
As per the title, my question to those of you that've had boats for eons, do you keep a spare throttle and gear cable in stock "just in case"? - I've ordered a few spares, including drive/aux belts and filters etc but as yet haven't gone as far as Cables ... HOW long do they last?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2017 14:06:17 GMT
As per the title, my question to those of you that've had boats for eons, do you keep a spare throttle and gear cable in stock "just in case"? - I've ordered a few spares, including drive/aux belts and filters etc but as yet haven't gone as far as Cables ... HOW long do they last? The Dog House was nine years old when we sold it, it never had a new cable on either as far as i know, certainly never in the time we owned it. However we once met somebody broken down a boat less than two yesrs old who's throttle cable had snapped at the lever end. I think a lot depends on how well they are installed ie avoiding very tight turns. For what they cost probably worth carrying, though I concede we never did. |
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Post by Telemachus on Sept 12, 2017 14:16:51 GMT
As per the title, my question to those of you that've had boats for eons, do you keep a spare throttle and gear cable in stock "just in case"? - I've ordered a few spares, including drive/aux belts and filters etc but as yet haven't gone as far as Cables ... HOW long do they last? 7 years and 2700 engine hrs so far. We don't have a spare. But as part of regular servicing I keep an eye in the condition and as mentioned, it's all about a good routing of thencable to avoid sharp bends especially at the points where the cable joins the levers. (Control lever and gearbox lever). They tend to break when they get stiff due to dirt or corrosion or kinks, and therefore the forces required to move the lever increases. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2017 14:46:06 GMT
Also depends on the way the skipper handled the Morse control.
If someone hauls the control back and forth fast then it's more likely to be a problem.
I usually "feel" it in and out of reverse gear before locks or mooring just to make sure its working .
I'm a bit of an anorak though !!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2017 14:53:18 GMT
Ours were of unknown vintage, last year and 7 years into our ownership I replaced them and kept the old ones as a spare set
It's not unheard of for them to fail, but tbh, they shouldn't be high on your must have spares list just yet, a few years down the line I'd definitely want a spare set.
Having said that they aren't too dear and take very little storage space. If you have a few quid spare it's definitely better to have a set to help ward off the breakdown gremlins and the RCR man if you are that way inclined.
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Post by tonyb on Sept 12, 2017 15:02:08 GMT
Maybe more important to carry a spare brass trunnion for the control end unless you lubricate it regularly. They wear through and snap.
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Post by Jim on Sept 12, 2017 15:04:52 GMT
I've replaced both, having had one snap, kept the other as a spare. They always go just entering a lock or approaching a Weir, they are semi sentient and evil like that. Gear cable had gone, I was leaping off with rope in hand to stop the boat, DC 22 cruiser, got funny looks and wry comments from the swindler at Stockton heath swindlery, as we stopped to get a new cable, the cable broke just a few locks before the end of the Rochdale, going into Castlefield. A bit of bent coat hanger made a rudimentary gear changer, but it wasn't easy to use.
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Post by quaysider on Sept 12, 2017 15:04:54 GMT
thats what I was hoping for - as the boat is new, it's still under warranty anyway but I figured it'd be easier to replace broken belts myself rather than wait for englines plus to do something about it -
I suppose, given I could always lash up a temp control cable using some cable ties and para-cord, I'll take the risk of not getting either cable yet then,
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Post by Jim on Sept 12, 2017 15:06:52 GMT
thats what I was hoping for - as the boat is new, it's still under warranty anyway but I figured it'd be easier to replace broken belts myself rather than wait for englines plus to do something about it - I suppose, given I could always lash up a temp control cable using some cable ties and para-cord, I'll take the risk of not getting either cable yet then, you are now doomed! |
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Post by naughtyfox on Sept 12, 2017 16:09:06 GMT
The splines on our gearstick thingy were worn and two years ago we got a new set of cables and control stick. It was suggested we keep the old cables just in case. The heavy head was attached to them and I had no idea how to remove that but this Summer we met kris (of this Parish) and he took the head off in a jiffy. Thanks, kris!
The old head ended up at Goole's marina office for going into their metal scrap bin.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2017 17:14:58 GMT
I was advised to keep a close eye on the cables, lubricate them with aerosol grease, and if one should go RCR will deliver a replacement fairly quickly. Had the boat since 2004 and done about 15,000 hrs and thus far not needed to replace one. Now the engine.......I need to replace that  Rog |
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Post by naughtyfox on Sept 12, 2017 17:22:24 GMT
I was advised to keep a close eye on the cables, lubricate them with aerosol grease, and if one should go RCR will deliver a replacement fairly quickly. And attach it using a lump of wood and a hammer?! I will look at our cables when I get round to it. Can they be removed from sheath and have oil/grease rubbed into them? How about just drip-dripping oil into the sheath at the top so gravity will help it to work its way down? |
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Post by alex on Sept 12, 2017 17:54:58 GMT
I had one snap half way up wigan flight ,ithought it was very clever of me to have bought a spare just in case , only couple of years old but had been installed with to tight a bend , not that expensive.
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Post by tonyb on Sept 13, 2017 7:09:33 GMT
I will look at our cables when I get round to it. Can they be removed from sheath and have oil/grease rubbed into them? How about just drip-dripping oil into the sheath at the top so gravity will help it to work its way down? No, and you should not need to lubricate it. The wire inside is stainless steel by the look of it (Alex can pull his old oen out now - well two halves to be exact) and this runs in a nylon type inner sheath. If you do give it a go make sure the oil will not attack the nylon. Its lubricating the trunnions on the end that is important. |
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Post by jam on Sept 14, 2017 20:54:04 GMT
I have a pair of spares for piece of mind but never had to use them. Maybe I have just tempted fate!
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