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Post by kris on Nov 1, 2017 10:26:46 GMT
As regards the 8-8 thing, it seems the iwa say its a bye law and Crt say it's in the liscence terms and conditions. Which as we all know carry more weight than any bye law or statute.
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Post by Graham on Nov 1, 2017 10:30:23 GMT
The bylaws were written in the days when there was very little if anything available that was silenced. The world has become a noisier place than it was just ten years ago. We yearn for the for the imagined peace and quiet of the country. Yet the countryside was never quiet, it was either the noise animal and wild life or the horse drawn machinery used to farm with. Yet people move to the country and then grumble about the noise from the animal life and machinery used to make that land productive and feed us. Now where does all that tie in to the canals and generators. It doesn't I felt like saying it because it demonstrates how sensitive we have become to noise. I am wondering if the sale of unsilenced generators and the like should be stopped and the use of them become illegal no matter what time of day. We live too close together not to be considerate of that neighbour be they tight up to use or 200 yards away on the canals. So in my simple view no generator should be run outside the 8 to 8 times and frame generators never. Most boat engines are quieter than a frame generator. Just my view
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Post by peterboat on Nov 1, 2017 10:59:48 GMT
Thank God I bought a whispergen!! It is fairly silent the exhaust is quieter than an eibersplutter and you cant hear the generator outside or for that matter inside when its on.
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Post by quaysider on Nov 1, 2017 11:14:46 GMT
No-one here (except us) seem to take any notice of the 8-8 rule... there are a number of 50"plasmas on wide-beam walls that seem to think it's ok to run a genny until their council house telly winning has finished for the night.
IF I'm going to do a proper charge on the genny - even during the day, I take the boat a few hundred yards past the moorings, DO the charge and then come back to the mooring out of courtesy for everyone else - I've not got a posh one but it is a suitcase so not as noisy as the frame ones ... a chap a few hundred yards away as a big diesel frame one and that shakes your teeth...
The hospital silencer on board does mean that IF I'd fucked up and ran out of power, I'd not feel too bad about running for half an hour or so out of hours.. any longer, and again, I'd move the boat away from folk cause I'm considerate like that.
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Post by The Lockie on Nov 1, 2017 14:42:38 GMT
Spray foam up the exhaust pipe does the trick
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Post by Andyberg on Nov 1, 2017 15:09:13 GMT
Spray foam up the exhaust pipe does the trick Ideal for up dogs exhaust too when they shit & piss up your mooring ropesπ
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Post by airedaleman on Nov 1, 2017 15:12:07 GMT
The hotel boats in France Run generators all night to keep the aircon going if they canβt get plugged in. I have a very noisy lister TS 12kw jenny which I start up if they wonβt switch theirs off they soon get the idea. A friend used to ask people the make of their Jenny if it was running on the bank at night and when told would say thatβs nice does it go underwater. Just to many boats in not enough space will make any perceived anti social behavior really annoying to some and noise at night is one of the worst.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2017 17:11:58 GMT
Good for you.
But seem people cannot immediately afford new batteries.
Surely you have to allow a little leeway.
Rog
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Post by lollygagger on Nov 1, 2017 17:15:25 GMT
...and I rather doubt even Foxy's magical batteries would hold out for 10-12 days between charges.
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Post by kris on Nov 1, 2017 17:20:41 GMT
...and I rather doubt even Foxy's magical batteries would hold out for 10-12 days between charges. or if he stayed on the boat for more than a few weeks at a time.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Nov 1, 2017 17:24:15 GMT
I don't think we have ever run the engine to 'charge the batteries' whilst stationary. Get some decent batteries, you lot! You use more electricity than my bus with all the lights on! I have fairly recent 115Ah Yuasa leisure batteries but the engine needs to be run for an hour or so a day to keep them charged. Ironically, when the weather gets colder I won't need to run the engine as often as I can store fresh food in the bilge and turn the refrigerator off (this is by far the biggest consumer of electricity on the boat). It doesn't help that I only have two leisure batteries, but there is no room to fit any more. More solar panels would help, and they are on the "to do" list for next year.
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Post by tadworth on Nov 2, 2017 2:16:52 GMT
The 8 till 8 " rule" is not a bylaw, it was a non enforceable advisory guide which was confirmed as such by BW's QC to Parliament prior to the 1995 BW act. After the act was enacted on the evidence they gave to Parliament BW and CRT have attempted to get what was refused by Parliament by creating a fake licence contract. Contempt of Parliament would be a good description of that process.
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Post by tomsk on Nov 2, 2017 19:03:06 GMT
Sabina H has a lot of electrical items and although I have a 1Kw solar array. on overcast days I need to run a generator. The system was set up as a summer cruising/winter mooring with the expectation of shore power for the winter. To truly be set up for winter off grid I would need at least a double size battery bank and a much larger charger to get the bulk charge in quicker. Longer nights and more overcast days mean I often have to run a generator for several hours a day. They are however built into the engine room so it is only the exhaust noise that can be heard outside and that is not noticeable at any sensible distance. The generator goes on about 9 ish and apart from battery charging gets used for either dishwasher or washing machine/tumble dryer and runs for maybe 2 or 3 hours then often on again in the evening about 5 ish for maybe an hour depending on what cooking I am doing. I do not run the generator at night unless at anchor where I need to keep the radar running (big user of electrickery) plus radios, GPS, anchor light, deck floods etc plus inumerable cups of coffee for the watchkeeper. Running a generator, practising The Rudiments of percussion in the dead of night, or the felling of trees and chipping therof 24/7 is not and should not be prohibited subject to by-law/ownership restrictions. It's all about reasonableness and context. T
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Post by Stumpy on Nov 2, 2017 19:14:30 GMT
Sabina H has a lot of electrical items and although I have a 1Kw solar array. on overcast days I need to run a generator. The system was set up as a summer cruising/winter mooring with the expectation of shore power for the winter. To truly be set up for winter off grid I would need at least a double size battery bank and a much larger charger to get the bulk charge in quicker. Longer nights and more overcast days mean I often have to run a generator for several hours a day. They are however built into the engine room so it is only the exhaust noise that can be heard outside and that is not noticeable at any sensible distance. The generator goes on about 9 ish and apart from battery charging gets used for either dishwasher or washing machine/tumble dryer and runs for maybe 2 or 3 hours then often on again in the evening about 5 ish for maybe an hour depending on what cooking I am doing. I do not run the generator at night unless at anchor where I need to keep the radar running (big user of electrickery) plus radios, GPS, anchor light, deck floods etc plus inumerable cups of coffee for the watchkeeper. Running a generator, practising The Rudiments of percussion in the dead of night, or the felling of trees and chipping therof 24/7 is not and should not be prohibited subject to by-law/ownership restrictions. It's all about reasonableness and context. T Most people call it good manners. Something sadly lacking in today's society.
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Post by thebfg on Nov 2, 2017 19:48:02 GMT
Running a generator, practising The Rudiments of percussion in the dead of night, or the felling of trees and chipping therof 24/7 is not and should not be prohibited subject to by-law/ownership restrictions. It's all about reasonableness and context. T Most people call it good manners. Something sadly lacking in today's society. Good manners and respect have long disappeared. Not just respect for others but for their property too.
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