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Post by Telemachus on Nov 8, 2017 22:32:13 GMT
You can only do it if the place 10 miles away is a pub. I know, it's a bind, but it's the law so you've just got to do it and drink alcohol and try to be sociable  Rog No, . . it isn't, . . it's purely a C&RT invention ! I think you missed the point on that one Tony! |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2017 22:45:03 GMT
You can only do it if the place 10 miles away is a pub. I know, it's a bind, but it's the law so you've just got to do it and drink alcohol and try to be sociable Rog No, . . it isn't, . . it's pure invention on the part of a bunch of complete gits at C&RT ! He's joking. (He has a very dry sense of humour). |
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Post by Saltysplash on Nov 8, 2017 23:03:58 GMT
Nothing worse than a dry sense of humour on a dry ship
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Post by JohnV on Nov 9, 2017 12:19:29 GMT
Nothing worse than a dry sense of humour on a dry ship Worst of both worlds !!!  |
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Post by loafer on Nov 13, 2017 13:41:12 GMT
Thank you for your useful replies - they more or less echo what I thought.
I apologise for the delay in responding to your kind posts - I was away at a big reunion weekend, which I barely remember, and consequently forgot I had posed the question!
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Post by loafer on Nov 14, 2017 16:41:10 GMT
OK chaps here's another one. I have a mooring in a private winding hole. Do I need a license if I never move? I'm only wondering about when the time comes that I don't travel about any more!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2017 16:53:35 GMT
OK chaps here's another one. I have a mooring in a private winding hole. Do I need a license if I never move? I'm only wondering about when the time comes that I don't travel about any more! If it's on private water, then no, you don't need a licence. I have a sneaky suspicion this will change in the very near future though. |
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Post by loafer on Nov 14, 2017 16:55:52 GMT
OK chaps here's another one. I have a mooring in a private winding hole. Do I need a license if I never move? I'm only wondering about when the time comes that I don't travel about any more! If it's on private water, then no, you don't need a licence. I have a sneaky suspicion this will change in the very near future though. It wouldn't surprise me! |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2017 17:00:05 GMT
A "private winding hole" is a description which intrigues me. Is it an old wharf with a lay by and turning area? I've heard that there is an interesting legal situation regarding mooring rights on old wharves but I don't know the full details. Someone (nigelmoore?) will  Would be good to find out then everyone can immediately rush to the nearest old wharf |
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Post by TonyDunkley on Nov 14, 2017 17:39:40 GMT
A "private winding hole" is a description which intrigues me. Is it an old wharf with a lay by and turning area? I've heard that there is an interesting legal situation regarding mooring rights on old wharves but I don't know the full details. Someone (nigelmoore?) will Would be good to find out then everyone can immediately rush to the nearest old wharf The right to moor is an entirely separate matter from the right to 'use and keep' a vessel on a waterway. Any boat kept and/or used on an artificial, C&RT controlled waterway, ie. a canal, must be licensed. Mooring to any land, whether to elsewhere other than the towpath on a canal or to private land on a C&RT controlled river waterway is subject to the permission/consent of only the landowner. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2017 17:45:38 GMT
So the EOG mooring thing is just a big scam?
I'm impressed at how few offside mooring developments there are if the only permission required is that of the land owner. There is demand for moorings so why is nobody sorting it out ?
I suppose the belief that CRT can charge for moorings is so strong that nobody dares challenge it even if it is blatantly illegal.
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Post by loafer on Nov 14, 2017 17:50:30 GMT
A "private winding hole" is a description which intrigues me. Is it an old wharf with a lay by and turning area? I've heard that there is an interesting legal situation regarding mooring rights on old wharves but I don't know the full details. Someone (nigelmoore?) will Would be good to find out then everyone can immediately rush to the nearest old wharf It's an old wharf, yes. All stone-edged, standard winding hole triangular shape, but allegedly private. There's no EOG element in my mooring charges, so I'm assuming I don't need a licence if I stay put when older and infirm. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2017 18:01:02 GMT
A "private winding hole" is a description which intrigues me. Is it an old wharf with a lay by and turning area? I've heard that there is an interesting legal situation regarding mooring rights on old wharves but I don't know the full details. Someone (nigelmoore?) will Would be good to find out then everyone can immediately rush to the nearest old wharf The right to moor is an entirely separate matter from the right to 'use and keep' a vessel on a waterway. Any boat kept and/or used on an artificial, C&RT controlled waterway, ie. a canal, must be licensed. Mooring to any land, whether to elsewhere other than the towpath on a canal or to private land on a C&RT controlled river waterway is subject to the permission/consent of only the landowner. OK so are you saying that someone keeping a boat moored against private land on a natural waterway controlled by CRT (Lee navigation for example) would not need a "cruising license" or permission to moor from anyone other than the land owner? Of course this would mean that the boat would not need a bs certificate either. I guess the local authority would have some say if a residential settlement appeared. |
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Post by IainS on Nov 14, 2017 20:42:10 GMT
The right to moor is an entirely separate matter from the right to 'use and keep' a vessel on a waterway. Any boat kept and/or used on an artificial, C&RT controlled waterway, ie. a canal, must be licensed. Mooring to any land, whether to elsewhere other than the towpath on a canal or to private land on a C&RT controlled river waterway is subject to the permission/consent of only the landowner. OK so are you saying that someone keeping a boat moored against private land on a natural waterway controlled by CRT (Lee navigation for example) would not need a "cruising license" or permission to moor from anyone other than the land owner? Of course this would mean that the boat would not need a bs certificate either. I guess the local authority would have some say if a residential settlement appeared. Depends on where the Main Navigational Channel lies    |
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Post by thebfg on Nov 14, 2017 20:44:06 GMT
OK so are you saying that someone keeping a boat moored against private land on a natural waterway controlled by CRT (Lee navigation for example) would not need a "cruising license" or permission to moor from anyone other than the land owner? Of course this would mean that the boat would not need a bs certificate either. I guess the local authority would have some say if a residential settlement appeared. Depends on where the Main Navigational Channel lies Bank to bank apparently 🤔 |
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