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Post by loafer on Nov 8, 2017 18:25:53 GMT
Having been a CC-er for many years, we now have a mooring. We arrive on it about now, and leave around April for a few months of CC-ing again. So I'd describe myself as a part - timer.
I'm aware that those with a home mooring have to behave as CCers when out and about, but can I potter backwards and forwards from my mooring, to a place about 10 miles away, back to the mooring, and then back to the place 10 miles away? I'll be doing around 40 miles a month over the same stretch of canal, returning to my mooring for several days before the next trip.
I know I can probably look it up, but I'm a lazy twat and hoping someone else has researched it!
Thanks all.
Edit: This only occurs in the winter months. In the summer, we do around 500 miles, often on EA waters.
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Post by faffer on Nov 8, 2017 18:30:31 GMT
I wouldnt even ask and just do it, to many do gooders moaning about this kinda of thing nowdays and end up slating you, just end like CW.
If CRT pop up just tell them what your doing and see what tye say.
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Post by kris on Nov 8, 2017 18:31:56 GMT
The simple answer is yes. Also you don't have to cruise as a cc'er when away from your mooring. In the parlance of Crt you can cruise A-B B-A add infinitum without ever going to C or D.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Nov 8, 2017 18:34:02 GMT
Perfectly legal, although if the CRT data logger records you as having been in the same spot away from your mooring for three weeks in a row, then you might get an overstay notice even though you had been back to your mooring in between sightings, although this would be cancelled if you explained that you had not been moored continuously at that place.
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Post by Telemachus on Nov 8, 2017 18:39:14 GMT
Having been a CC-er for many years, we now have a mooring. We arrive on it about now, and leave around April for a few months of CC-ing again. So I'd describe myself as a part - timer. I'm aware that those with a home mooring have to behave as CCers when out and about, but can I potter backwards and forwards from my mooring, to a place about 10 miles away, back to the mooring, and then back to the place 10 miles away? I'll be doing around 40 miles a month over the same stretch of canal, returning to my mooring for several days before the next trip. I know I can probably look it up, but I'm a lazy twat and hoping someone else has researched it! Thanks all. Edit: This only occurs in the winter months. In the summer, we do around 500 miles, often on EA waters. Yes thatβs absolutely fine and mirrors what many marina-dwelling weekend-tripping IWA-types do! Of course if you have a home mooring, there are no legal constraints on what you can do in terms of cruising pattern. CRT try to impose a max 14 day stay through their Ts and Cs but seem to back down if anyone threatens to test it in court. i suppose thereβs a chance that you might get logged in the same place twice with the silly logging system being too unintelligent to realise youβd been back to your moorings in the mean time, and thus get a communication from CRT, but if that were to happen just tell them what youβve done and they will be happy.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2017 18:43:39 GMT
You can only do it if the place 10 miles away is a pub. I know, it's a bind, but it's the law so you've just got to do it and drink alcohol and try to be sociable In seriousness, I think in the 'brave new world' C&RT are little interested in you once you have a permanent mooring, even if you only use it in winter. We've moored our boat at Saltisford October, November and December for the last 13 years and CC'd the rest of the year. Just make sure C&RT are aware of your permanent mooring, even though you only use it for limited times. Rog
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2017 18:45:15 GMT
Having been a CC-er for many years, we now have a mooring. We arrive on it about now, and leave around April for a few months of CC-ing again. So I'd describe myself as a part - timer. I'm aware that those with a home mooring have to behave as CCers when out and about, but can I potter backwards and forwards from my mooring, to a place about 10 miles away, back to the mooring, and then back to the place 10 miles away? I'll be doing around 40 miles a month over the same stretch of canal, returning to my mooring for several days before the next trip. I know I can probably look it up, but I'm a lazy twat and hoping someone else has researched it! Thanks all. Edit: This only occurs in the winter months. In the summer, we do around 500 miles, often on EA waters. You will be fine doing that, but more importantly, perfectly within the legislation. CRT will back down if you challenge any notices they serve on you as a home moorer. Parry has been looking for a "perfect case" to take to court on this, (whatever that means) but he has been told to back away from such an event.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2017 18:46:54 GMT
You can only do it if the place 10 miles away is a pub. I know, it's a bind, but it's the law so you've just got to do it and drink alcohol and try to be sociable In seriousness, I think in the 'brave new world' C&RT are little interested in you once you have a permanent mooring, even if you only use it in winter. We've moored our boat at Saltisford October, November and December for the last 13 years and CC'd the rest of the year. Just make sure C&RT are aware of your permanent mooring, even though you only use it for limited times. Rog I reversed me fat boat down the saltisford arm once to collect a bottle of gas. All hell broke loose.
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Post by thebfg on Nov 8, 2017 18:50:51 GMT
I totally agree.
What else can a marina dweller do when they only visit the boat mainly at weekends. Go up and down and back into the marina.
Then there is the added bit that in between during the week someone else has done the same trip.
There is nothing else you can do.
They can't moan about your distance(range) as you say in the summer you do enough
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2017 18:51:59 GMT
I bet the locals are still crossing themselves and speaking of the incident in whispers Actually the self hire day-boat 'Saltie' is 9' 6" , and the wide beam hotel boat Tranquil Rose is a fairly frequent visitor too. Rog
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Post by thebfg on Nov 8, 2017 18:52:06 GMT
You can only do it if the place 10 miles away is a pub. I know, it's a bind, but it's the law so you've just got to do it and drink alcohol and try to be sociable In seriousness, I think in the 'brave new world' C&RT are little interested in you once you have a permanent mooring, even if you only use it in winter. We've moored our boat at Saltisford October, November and December for the last 13 years and CC'd the rest of the year. Just make sure C&RT are aware of your permanent mooring, even though you only use it for limited times. Rog I reversed me fat boat down the saltisford arm once to collect a bottle of gas. All hell broke loose. Aha. That is why I thought you were down south.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2017 18:54:30 GMT
I bet the locals are still crossing themselves and speaking of the incident in whispers Actually the self hire day-boat 'Saltie' is 9' 6" , and the wide beam hotel boat Tranquil Rose is a fairly frequent visitor too. Rog I think it was the fact I was reversing, and fenders up. One of them very kindly offered to collect the bottle and deliver it to me π
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Post by patty on Nov 8, 2017 20:47:59 GMT
Don't worry about CRT just enjoy your winter...they'll let u know if u transgress rules but I think you'll be ok
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Post by TonyDunkley on Nov 8, 2017 22:26:23 GMT
I'm aware that those with a home mooring have to behave as CCers when out and about, but can I potter backwards and forwards from my mooring, to a place about 10 miles away, back to the mooring, and then back to the place 10 miles away? This is precisely what C&RT tried to impose on me in 2013-14, but backed down when challenged through the Courts. The truth is if you have a (home) mooring, then you can do just as you wish with absolutely no obligation under any legislation or Byelaws to comply with any of the utter tripe that C&RT publish about 'cruising patterns', or anything else.
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Post by TonyDunkley on Nov 8, 2017 22:31:16 GMT
You can only do it if the place 10 miles away is a pub. I know, it's a bind, but it's the law so you've just got to do it and drink alcohol and try to be sociable Rog No, . . it isn't, . . it's pure invention on the part of a bunch of complete gits at C&RT !
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