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Post by patty on Nov 15, 2017 14:11:39 GMT
My ecofan is placed exactly where the instructions told me to....and if u look at Martins post above then its obvious(well to me) that the heat sensor went off cos without the fan heat rises......
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Post by Jim on Nov 15, 2017 18:23:09 GMT
At least we are getting rational discussion here, mind you I did post it as a popcorn moment on the other channel, the usual suspects coming up with the same old twaddle.
The fire at home is inset in the hearth, so the fan is pushing air out of an open box with a fire in it.
I'm going to try it on the boat. Fire is situated about 3/4 down the boat, with the seating in the front 1/4, all open plan, caravan style. It can get too hot at the front, cooler down the back, so I'll try the ecofan blowing to the back and see if it evens up the temperature, maybe more comfortable at the front end.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Nov 15, 2017 21:27:07 GMT
I bought one from Aldi a few weeks ago for £24.99. It does seem to have evened out temperatures in the saloon and made it less hot to be sitting directly in front of the stove. In that the blades spin, and are angled, then logic suggests that it must be moving air around, also the blades behind the fan are virtually at ambient temperature (it is the temperature difference between these blades and the fan base which produces thermo-electricity) which suggests that the fan must be moving air past these blades and if it is, then that air must be going somewhere.
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Post by naughtyfox on Nov 16, 2017 8:23:48 GMT
Our 'Ecofan' has the chimney flue-thingy behind it so it is 'sucking' hot air from the chimney pipe. I have read that they should be in front of the chimney and directing colder air AT the chimney pipe, thus warming that colder air.
I think it's much the same - our fan's action will be bringing colder air to the rear anyway, as it's pushing hot air out away from the chimney pipe.
Quite honestly, if you put some long thermal underpants/leggings on, you'll be much warmer anyway and just see the fan as something moving in the background making the boat a bit more cheery. Like having the radio on - you really think there's someone else there with you.
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Post by patty on Nov 16, 2017 11:36:56 GMT
Our 'Ecofan' has the chimney flue-thingy behind it so it is 'sucking' hot air from the chimney pipe. I have read that they should be in front of the chimney and directing colder air AT the chimney pipe, thus warming that colder air. I think it's much the same - our fan's action will be bringing colder air to the rear anyway, as it's pushing hot air out away from the chimney pipe. Quite honestly, if you put some long thermal underpants/leggings on, you'll be much warmer anyway and just see the fan as something moving in the background making the boat a bit more cheery. Like having the radio on - you really think there's someone else there with you. Thats ok if u r using the ecofan to distribute heat if u r cold but in my case it was to prevent heat detectors driving me crazy ... I do think they work but not gonna try without just to see if the detectors start going off again... Thermals have already been sorted out and are must wear items of clothing here. |
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Post by lollygagger on Nov 16, 2017 12:03:31 GMT
Our 'Ecofan' has the chimney flue-thingy behind it so it is 'sucking' hot air from the chimney pipe. I have read that they should be in front of the chimney and directing colder air AT the chimney pipe, thus warming that colder air. I think it's much the same - our fan's action will be bringing colder air to the rear anyway, as it's pushing hot air out away from the chimney pipe. Quite honestly, if you put some long thermal underpants/leggings on, you'll be much warmer anyway and just see the fan as something moving in the background making the boat a bit more cheery. Like having the radio on - you really think there's someone else there with you. Thats ok if u r using the ecofan to distribute heat if u r cold but in my case it was to prevent heat detectors driving me crazy ... I do think they work but not gonna try without just to see if the detectors start going off again... Oh go on, go on, go on. Otherwise you shouldn't really suggest the ecofan works as you're putting two and two together and claiming it makes five. |
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Post by Jim on Nov 16, 2017 14:12:46 GMT
Who's voted late? I've posted an untruth on cwdf, "a recent poll showed that 84% of voters thought ecofans work", when the voting was 10 - 2.
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Post by tonyb on Nov 16, 2017 15:00:46 GMT
Our stove is at the back of the boat with a side corridor, stove in line with corridor. Last Friday we went to the boat and I lit the stove. After it was going well I went into the kitchen and felt it was colder than I expected. Then I noticed I had left the Ecofan hanging up. Put it on the stove and within 5 minutes or so the kitchen was getting warmer. I have noticed this before. The fan seems to drive heat through the corridor but it does not appear to move air with much velocity. I no way scientific but enough to suggest to me that they do work to some degree but if you want high velocity air you need a computer fan.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2017 15:28:52 GMT
Who's voted late? I've posted an untruth on cwdf, "a recent poll showed that 84% of voters thought ecofans work", when the voting was 10 - 2. You should have locked the poll while it was so high......  |
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Post by patty on Nov 16, 2017 20:50:41 GMT
Thats ok if u r using the ecofan to distribute heat if u r cold but in my case it was to prevent heat detectors driving me crazy ... I do think they work but not gonna try without just to see if the detectors start going off again... Oh go on, go on, go on. Otherwise you shouldn't really suggest the ecofan works as you're putting two and two together and claiming it makes five. U just want me to have yet another problem...as i said if it aint broke don't fix it...actually I never said that at all but no way am I gonna risk Horror House having another 'turn'...bloody Nora...and now u have made me swear...hmmmph.... |
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Post by Saltysplash on Nov 17, 2017 0:30:08 GMT
There are so many what if's.....what if the fan hadnt been put on the stove and five minutes later the kitchen began to warm up anyway.
When boaters have conducted tests have all the variables been eactly the same? inside temp, outside temp, any wind outside, any ice on the cut, all boat vents open or closed, any windows open or closed, was the exact same amount of stove fuel used etc etc.
My feelings are we buy these things and want them to work so we convince ourselves that they work. We have faith in the little stove top spinny thing.....it is the messiah.
The band Elwood the band....we're putting the band back together.....Jesus H Chr*st I see the light
eta the profanity ban hammer at work doesnt like the word Chr*st FFS
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Post by bodger on Nov 17, 2017 8:42:28 GMT
Our 'Ecofan' has the chimney flue-thingy behind it so it is 'sucking' hot air from the chimney pipe. I have read that they should be in front of the chimney and directing colder air AT the chimney pipe, thus warming that colder air. I think it's much the same - our fan's action will be bringing colder air to the rear anyway, as it's pushing hot air out away from the chimney pipe. Quite honestly, if you put some long thermal underpants/leggings on, you'll be much warmer anyway and just see the fan as something moving in the background making the boat a bit more cheery. Like having the radio on - you really think there's someone else there with you. if you put a dozen pairs of long thermal leggings on you would get so hot you could walk around adding heat to your environment. In fact if you could get a few Finns to copy you, you could negate all Trump's efforts to accelerate global warming. Get to it, foxy. |
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Post by bettina on Nov 19, 2017 1:17:34 GMT
For us, hubby swears it makes all the difference. Me...it's just something else to dust and is of little use other then to let me know if the fire needs some more fuel  |
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Post by Albion on Nov 20, 2017 14:00:47 GMT
In my opinion they work. Sorry to be late in this discussion. I had one that moved the air further down the boat from the Squirrel that was right at the front of the boat and the bedroom, right at the stern on a 59ft trad boat), was slightly warmer than before and the heat was also more evenly distributed in other rooms. Yes, you can't feel a draft from them but, during winters living aboard, I found a difference.
Roger
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