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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2017 10:01:09 GMT
I'm a bit sceptical about driverless cars but I actually enjoy driving so I personally wouldn't have one. Maybe it would be good for those who have to commute the same boring route every day.
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Post by peterboat on Nov 19, 2017 10:35:24 GMT
I now hate driving so I think they will very popular, and the insurance companies will love them! So I suspect people that want to drive will pay a much higher premium for that pleasure. Also the things will more than likely be all electric so the road tax will be nowt, give them 10 years and cars with steering wheels will be obsolete
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2017 11:04:22 GMT
I now hate driving so I think they will very popular, and the insurance companies will love them! So I suspect people that want to drive will pay a much higher premium for that pleasure. Also the things will more than likely be all electric so the road tax will be nowt, give them 10 years and cars with steering wheels will be obsolete That is simply rubbish Peter Sorry. It may be nowt now but that in no way means it will be then, or how else do they make up the shortfall in VED and Fuel duty?? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2017 11:22:36 GMT
I would have thought if driverless electric cars become the norm then a system of pay-by-the-mile road tolls would follow pretty rapidly. Or something like that bearing in mind all the vehicles would obviously have equipment on board indicating position and speed and the mileometer as well.
I very much doubt electric cars would be considerably cheaper then existing oil driven cars. Someone somewhere wants the money and will continue to get it by hook or by crook.
Another possibility is that after a while there will be disposable cars with a 5 year life and the required tax will be placed on the purchase cost of the vehicle.
I have a habit of overcomplicating things to be fair ..
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Post by Andyberg on Nov 19, 2017 11:28:40 GMT
If it means I can go the boozer, get shitfaced, then just hit the home button on my driverless car without having to pay through the nose for a taxi-ride I’m all for it!👍👍
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Post by peterboat on Nov 19, 2017 12:59:37 GMT
I now hate driving so I think they will very popular, and the insurance companies will love them! So I suspect people that want to drive will pay a much higher premium for that pleasure. Also the things will more than likely be all electric so the road tax will be nowt, give them 10 years and cars with steering wheels will be obsolete That is simply rubbish Peter Sorry. It may be nowt now but that in no way means it will be then, or how else do they make up the shortfall in VED and Fuel duty?? Their are other ways of skinning a cat than VED and Road fuel duty. I suspect the cars will be induction run so you pay for use. with the last bit and beginning of journeys carried out by batteries. Also as taxis with no drivers they will be much busier. I asked my kids about this and my mate smith asked his they love the idea of driverless cars we are the past they are the future |
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Post by Robbo on Nov 19, 2017 13:00:44 GMT
As I don’t need a car but do hire, I would love a self driving hire car to be available. Just order one on a app, tell it take me too parents (or where ever) and then it fucks off as I won’t need it. Compare that to hire cars now and you the drawn out process of hiring one and brining it back. The by hour cars are better but costly if for more than a few hours.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2017 13:12:21 GMT
That is simply rubbish Peter Sorry. It may be nowt now but that in no way means it will be then, or how else do they make up the shortfall in VED and Fuel duty?? Their are other ways of skinning a cat than VED and Road fuel duty. I suspect the cars will be induction run so you pay for use. with the last bit and beginning of journeys carried out by batteries. Also as taxis with no drivers they will be much busier. I asked my kids about this and my mate smith asked his they love the idea of driverless cars we are the past they are the future So you will still pay a tax to use a car then? That is not what you said earlier. It may not be called 'road tax' - (in fact it isn't now) - but calling it something else doesn't mean it's 'nowt'. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2017 13:21:55 GMT
Some do-gooder will ban them as they encourage drinking alcohol...
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Post by Andyberg on Nov 19, 2017 13:29:01 GMT
One serious issue is how are the Friday night pissed up single mum benefits sluts going to get home with no cash left in their purses? Who are they going to offer the 'sexual favours for a lift' to in an electric car? (Asking question for a concerned taxi driving friend! 🙄)  |
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Post by Robbo on Nov 19, 2017 14:09:08 GMT
It sounds like a boring Future. I like driving sometimes, although as a passenger you can see more because you don't need to look at the road/traffic so much. What if you suddenly decide you want to nip down a side road because it looks interesting but the Computer Says No and carries taking you along the shortest A-B route. It will take all the fun away of you showing your driving skills, and the satisfaction of knowing you've driven all that way all by yourself. ll robots try to rip you off? Heathrow to Earl's Court via Elstree. I like driving as well. I have a few classic cars. However i don’t like driving when there’s a lot of cars on the road and I trust a computer driving rather than the majority of the people on the roads today. |
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Post by bodger on Nov 19, 2017 14:11:33 GMT
it is very likely that computer-driven cars will be legal and available by 2021, but highly unlikely that they will be 'driver-less' in my lifetime.
as I see it, they are no different to an airliner on auto-pilot, except they may be able to pull out from and into a parking space at each end of the journey, because they will still need a qualified driver to make decisions when everything goes tits-up changes (which it will).
however, there will be locations where cars are guided by sensors in the road and are truly driver-less (there is an experimental suburb called Masdar in Abu Dhabi where it is planned or maybe already happening), but it won't happen in general for maybe a generation.
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Post by patty on Nov 19, 2017 14:49:14 GMT
Let's see if your robot-driven car can manage this. Do you dare to take a nap on the back seat?  Where is this please?.....just need to put it on my list of places I never ever wanna go..thank you |
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Post by peterboat on Nov 19, 2017 15:05:40 GMT
Their are other ways of skinning a cat than VED and Road fuel duty. I suspect the cars will be induction run so you pay for use. with the last bit and beginning of journeys carried out by batteries. Also as taxis with no drivers they will be much busier. I asked my kids about this and my mate smith asked his they love the idea of driverless cars we are the past they are the future So you will still pay a tax to use a car then? That is not what you said earlier. It may not be called 'road tax' - (in fact it isn't now) - but calling it something else doesn't mean it's 'nowt'. How much in tax do you pay to use your current car? most of the cost of diesel is tax so I would expect a tax on the fuel the rest well currently all electric cars are tax free for VED anyway bring them on quicker the better for me |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2017 15:37:33 GMT
So you will still pay a tax to use a car then? That is not what you said earlier. It may not be called 'road tax' - (in fact it isn't now) - but calling it something else doesn't mean it's 'nowt'. How much in tax do you pay to use your current car? most of the cost of diesel is tax so I would expect a tax on the fuel the rest well currently all electric cars are tax free for VED anyway bring them on quicker the better for me Yes I know they are currently tax free, I've already said that Peter. That is not the point I am making, which I think you know. I am contesting your earlier assertion that they will remain so. I am seriously doubting it, and a way will have to be found to tax them in order to compensate for the loss of VED and fuel tax. It might be called something else but at the end of the day it will be a payment we will make to the government for the use of a car on the roads AKA a 'tax'. It's simply not economically viable to allow cars electric (or those using using another form of none fossil fuel powered propulsion) to continue free of charge. |
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