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Post by kris on Sept 12, 2020 13:41:06 GMT
Very happy to be proved wrong about the boat.
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Post by patty on Sept 12, 2020 14:10:58 GMT
Thats good... What an interesting project..
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Post by JohnV on Sept 13, 2020 7:20:00 GMT
Saw her sunk in Burnhan a few times and looking at the position and the obstructions around her, I was very pessimistic about her survival. It's good she will now be a survivor
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Post by thebfg on Sept 14, 2020 14:41:20 GMT
To update this topic, Llys Helig (submerged gentleman’s yacht in Burnham on Crouch) has now been raised and is being prepared for a full restoration to her original 1922 lines. Due to be towed from Burnham to Chatham in Kent in the next few weeks. Llyshelig.com or any of the social platforms. The Llys Helig team. Welcome aboard, thank you for taking the time to find and update us. Good luck, of its possible could you please keep coming back with photos of the job, however long it takes. We like photos. Especially photos of boats.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2020 8:46:43 GMT
Found this picture on their Facebook page. What a lovely looking boat once all that nonsense was taken off the top !!! Almost unrecognisable compared to how it was. It's absolutely superb. It's a bit embarrassing to see how it was before but worth putting picture up for comparison. Classic example of a boat being messed around just to access the extra square metres available while pretending it is a house.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2020 15:08:06 GMT
Interesting little video clip showing how nackered it actually is. Stern needs to be rebuilt and it is staying in Burnham until next spring due to the risk of towing to Chatham in October. Suggestions that hull repairs can be carried out in situ but I would have thought that would be a bit of a bodge and you would really need a proper shipyard to do the reconstruction work. Pair of 8 pot Gleniffers in it. Nice units but surely not salvageable. Parts must be a bit of a nightmare for these beautiful old engines.. I do wonder if perhaps the predictions of it being scrap may come true once the enormity of of the cost of actually fully refurbishing it becomes clear... it is large and that stern does look pretty wrong and expensive ! Interesting to know what the original shell plating spec was. Fully rebuilding it by rivetting would be a huge task and not that many people who can do it. Great if it did get done though !! It is a facebook link but I was able to watch the videos without needing a login. www.facebook.com/llyshelig1922/videos/new-video-best-bits-from-the-day-of-raising-llys-helig-this-video-shows-how-hard/1217938748539172/
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Post by Jim on Oct 2, 2020 17:43:38 GMT
Interesting little video clip showing how nackered it actually is. Stern needs to be rebuilt and it is staying in Burnham until next spring due to the risk of towing to Chatham in October. Suggestions that hull repairs can be carried out in situ but I would have thought that would be a bit of a bodge and you would really need a proper shipyard to do the reconstruction work. Pair of 8 pot Gleniffers in it. Nice units but surely not salvageable. Parts must be a bit of a nightmare for these beautiful old engines.. I do wonder if perhaps the predictions of it being scrap may come true once the enormity of of the cost of actually fully refurbishing it becomes clear... it is large and that stern does look pretty wrong and expensive ! Interesting to know what the original shell plating spec was. Fully rebuilding it by rivetting would be a huge task and not that many people who can do it. Great if it did get done though !! It is a facebook link but I was able to watch the videos without needing a login. www.facebook.com/llyshelig1922/videos/new-video-best-bits-from-the-day-of-raising-llys-helig-this-video-shows-how-hard/1217938748539172/Cool! Now following.
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Post by naughtyfox on Oct 3, 2020 6:20:47 GMT
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Post by Jim on Oct 3, 2020 8:59:46 GMT
You are nearest, just nip over on the Galaxy (Greta will smile on you) and get us one.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2021 8:21:44 GMT
I'm really intrigued about this story with the Llys Helig. Yes it is still in Burnham on Crouch and seems to not be in a condition where it is allowed to be towed down to Chatham. Update by owner a day ago saying there is 3 weeks of welding work to be done and this will happen in July. Then it will be towed. I reckon it is scrap. It's an interesting story and hopefully it does all get sorted and rebuilt because it could end up being a really nice boat. It just seems too far gone. I wonder why one would tow it rather than put it on a barge and tow that. Cost doesn't appear to be an issue as the thing will be hugely expensive to rebuild anyway so surely the barge is the right thing for this, having first removed non original upperworks. www.llyshelig.com/If it was towed and broke up in the shipping lanes I wonder whether it would be salvaged or just left there. Tow it like this (Istros was somewhat larger at 42m long) Obviously boat would need to be floating in order to get the barge under it. They probably craned that one on which would not be feasible where the Llys Helig is located.
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Post by patty on Jun 2, 2021 13:41:11 GMT
I'm really intrigued about this story with the Llys Helig. Yes it is still in Burnham on Crouch and seems to not be in a condition where it is allowed to be towed down to Chatham. Update by owner a day ago saying there is 3 weeks of welding work to be done and this will happen in July. Then it will be towed. I reckon it is scrap. It's an interesting story and hopefully it does all get sorted and rebuilt because it could end up being a really nice boat. It just seems too far gone. I wonder why one would tow it rather than put it on a barge and tow that. Cost doesn't appear to be an issue as the thing will be hugely expensive to rebuild anyway so surely the barge is the right thing for this, having first removed non original upperworks. www.llyshelig.com/If it was towed and broke up in the shipping lanes I wonder whether it would be salvaged or just left there. Tow it like this (Istros was somewhat larger at 42m long) Obviously boat would need to be floating in order to get the barge under it. They probably craned that one on which would not be feasible where the Llys Helig is located. Thats an awesome picture
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2021 19:40:55 GMT
In those two pictures it is interesting to see how the problem of the tender is dealt with. In the old version of the boat the tender would have been hanging from the davits on the side while underway or loaded onto the deck. In the new version I suspect the tender is behind the door in the side of the hull. Fashions and technological changes I suppose account for this. I prefer the davits myself. Also I suppose if they had an awfully ugly rib or some other hideous speed boat rather than a proper yacht tender it may be more aesthetically pleasing to hide it away so that it does not detract from the attractive appearance of the boat. I like the old yacht tenders. Nice items. Like this . Looks like she had a nice Riva previously which was loaded with the davits. But now there is just an ugly lump on the front deck. Rather naff !! The hole in the side seems to be for smaller things maybe that's where the jetskis are kept.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2021 8:20:58 GMT
Anyway going back to the old Llys Helig it is still in Burnham but -apparently- going to be towed across to Chatham THIS year. Taking longer than expected (surprising not). I wonder if it is basically a problem about getting someone who is adequately insured to tow it. And MCA approval I suppose. There has been a lot of work on it but is it really safe to move it? www.facebook.com/llyshelig1922/Looking back over the posts it seems it has Gleniffer engines but sadly well beyond repair.
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Post by JohnV on Sept 21, 2021 10:51:09 GMT
The MCA can be quite picky when something as large (and potentially fragile) is being towed on it's own hull
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