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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2016 5:43:34 GMT
I have just learned of the death of Muhammad Ali aged 74.It seems the last year or two
more and more of your childhood is passing away.Who can forget the "Rumble in the Jungle"
or the "Thrilla in Manilla" back in the day long before Sky Sports.With the early onset of Parkinsons
Disease at the age of 42 we were of course robbed of Ali in his later years but what an athlete,
what a boxer,was he the best you ever saw?Yes I think so.RIP Muhammad Ali
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Post by phil70 on Jun 4, 2016 7:16:18 GMT
RIP Cassius Clay, one of a kind
Phil
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Post by peterboat on Jun 4, 2016 12:33:14 GMT
RIP indeed Cassius Clay although I do believe he lost against our Henry when his side slit his glove to give him more time
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Post by PaulG2 on Jun 4, 2016 13:14:59 GMT
People will remember Muhammed Ali for many reasons, mine are quite personal. Ali was my inspiration and helped give me the courage to stand up to the United States government and say, "Fuck you! I will not participate in the Vietnamese genocide." Whilst most "draft dodgers" at the time headed north to Canada, like Ali, I stayed and faced the music.
At the time he went to prison, Ali was well on the road to fame and fortune. He gave all of that up, and willingly went to prison, to stand up for what he believed in. To understand his committment, one needs to understand that Ali had no idea what awaited him when his prison time was over. Life was not very kind to black ex-cons at that time, and he had taken a very controversial position. He had no idea if he would return to reclaim fame and fortune, or if he'd spend the rest of his life doing menial labor. That is what makes him the greatest, in my mind anyway. He risked losing everything to stand on principle, and that is a rare quality.
I'm not much for belief in afterlife, but, if there is one, Ali is now free of his mortal bonds, and can once again flit like a butterfly, and sting like a bee.
RIP Muhammed Ali.
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Post by yamyam on Jun 4, 2016 18:48:21 GMT
Agree with all of the above and there's not many people on the planet who can command a complete bbc news bulletin to the expense of all other news and a tribute programme quickly arranged for later tonight.
Thanks for all the memories of my youth when boxing wasn't quite the farce it is now.
RIP
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2016 19:00:34 GMT
Agree with all of the above and there's not many people on the planet who can command a complete bbc news bulletin to the expense of all other news and a tribute programme quickly arranged for later tonight. Thanks for all the memories of my youth when boxing wasn't quite the farce it is now. RIP Well said YamYam |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2016 19:08:39 GMT
People will remember Muhammed Ali for many reasons, mine are quite personal. Ali was my inspiration and helped give me the courage to stand up to the United States government and say, "Fuck you! I will not participate in the Vietnamese genocide." Whilst most "draft dodgers" at the time headed north to Canada, like Ali, I stayed and faced the music. At the time he went to prison, Ali was well on the road to fame and fortune. He gave all of that up, and willingly went to prison, to stand up for what he believed in. To understand his committment, one needs to understand that Ali had no idea what awaited him when his prison time was over. Life was not very kind to black ex-cons at that time, and he had taken a very controversial position. He had no idea if he would return to reclaim fame and fortune, or if he'd spend the rest of his life doing menial labor. That is what makes him the greatest, in my mind anyway. He risked losing everything to stand on principle, and that is a rare quality. I'm not much for belief in afterlife, but, if there is one, Ali is now free of his mortal bonds, and can once again flit like a butterfly, and sting like a bee. RIP Muhammed Ali. I don't want to rain on the parade so to speak,but I have read your post with interest and I would like to ask this.You must appreciate that Ali was a very controversial figure especially among his fellow boxers who he wouldn't think twice of racially abusing. I well remember an interview with Joe Frazier some years back and he was very bitter about the way Ali abused him,psychologically destroyed him really,Frazier took the view that he Frazier had the last laugh because God had punished Ali by leaving him a vegetable while Frazier was living a good god fearing life to the full.Incredibly 30 years later thats how bad Frazier felt about Ali.Have you heard this before and what do you think? |
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Post by PaulG2 on Jun 4, 2016 20:03:27 GMT
People will remember Muhammed Ali for many reasons, mine are quite personal. Ali was my inspiration and helped give me the courage to stand up to the United States government and say, "Fuck you! I will not participate in the Vietnamese genocide." Whilst most "draft dodgers" at the time headed north to Canada, like Ali, I stayed and faced the music. At the time he went to prison, Ali was well on the road to fame and fortune. He gave all of that up, and willingly went to prison, to stand up for what he believed in. To understand his committment, one needs to understand that Ali had no idea what awaited him when his prison time was over. Life was not very kind to black ex-cons at that time, and he had taken a very controversial position. He had no idea if he would return to reclaim fame and fortune, or if he'd spend the rest of his life doing menial labor. That is what makes him the greatest, in my mind anyway. He risked losing everything to stand on principle, and that is a rare quality. I'm not much for belief in afterlife, but, if there is one, Ali is now free of his mortal bonds, and can once again flit like a butterfly, and sting like a bee. RIP Muhammed Ali. I don't want to rain on the parade so to speak,but I have read your post with interest and I would like to ask this.You must appreciate that Ali was a very controversial figure especially among his fellow boxers who he wouldn't think twice of racially abusing. I well remember an interview with Joe Frazier some years back and he was very bitter about the way Ali abused him,psychologically destroyed him really,Frazier took the view that he Frazier had the last laugh because God had punished Ali by leaving him a vegetable while Frazier was living a good god fearing life to the full.Incredibly 30 years later thats how bad Frazier felt about Ali.Have you heard this before and what do you think? If Frazier did say those things, that says more about Frazier than it does about Ali. The man is one sick puppy. I can't help but wonder what god he fears? Most of the gods I'm familiar with would consider it smiting time for an attitude like that. The thought of Ali denigrating someone because of his race, especially another black man, is particularly absurd. One of the things Ali was the greatest at was being a showman, and he made a spectacle of the build-up to a fight. Weigh-in events, with his taunting of his opponents, and the feigned fisticuffs that often ensued, were a pleasure to behold. Ali sometimes got caught up in his own hype, like his "rope a dope" comments after the Foreman fight, but I don't think he had a malicious bone in his body. I remember him looming large over Howard Cosell while Cosell gave him a verbal lashing and he never showed anything but affection for Cosell.You have to remember too that it was the showmanship of Ali, along with his boxing skills, that made a millionaire of anyone who stepped in the ring with him, win or lose. He increased the purse for all boxers that were to follow him. Frazier knew what he was getting into when he applied to fight Ali. Ali's antics payed big dividends to Frazier, and all of Ali's opponents at the time. I don't know if Frazier was always so bitter, he kinda fell off the radar after his fighting career. If he did say those things, it's probably best to remember that he was hit in the head a lot of times too.Muhammad Ali is very much a cultural icon here, and people such as him, particularly with the Parkinson's factor, are off limits to bad publicity much the same way that it seems your Queen is. I doubt Frazier would get much traction in the media here with his vicious ramblings. Even if he did say those things, few people would want to hear it or listen to him. |
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Post by Mr Stabby on Jun 4, 2016 21:36:42 GMT
You must appreciate that Ali was a very controversial figure especially among his fellow boxers who he wouldn't think twice of racially abusing. I never knew this, and quite frankly it has shocked me. I mean, a coon racially abusing someone. |
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