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Post by Graham on Jan 5, 2018 18:58:08 GMT
I remember many years ago back in the early 60s in Kisumu on my way back to my lodging with a friend who was a local police Inspector, we came across a police office arresting a vagrant/beggar. A which my normal sympathies rose to the top, my friend suggested that we accompany the Officer and his charge to the Station. At the station they removed his wooden leg. Inside was more than several time my years salary. So yes there are some professional beggars, but there are I believe many more who are not professionals. The local police know the professionals and I suspect deal with them under the Vagrancy Act etc, They also know the homeless and are shall we say more caring and tried to guide them to help. Oh I have never given money to a beggar since that day in Kisumu. I have bought meals and made phone calls to the right people but never money . I generally avoid giving to beggars but I did feel a bit guilty last year when I went into a Supermarket in Birmingham with an allegedly homeless beggar outside, and I came out fully loaded with bags of shopping, wine etc. I put the stuff into the car and went back to him, I asked him if he would like me to buy him a sandwich or a hot drink. He looked at me in disgust and declined my offer! He only wanted cash. I haven't spoken to any street beggars since. You see Nick that is where you reveal the true colours, get rebuffed once and you tar all with the same brush.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2018 19:00:44 GMT
I was wondering which supermarket in Birmingham it was.
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Post by Telemachus on Jan 5, 2018 19:01:49 GMT
I was wondering which supermarket in Birmingham it was. Tesco at 5 ways IIRC (fairly close to the boat moored on the mainline). That supermarket is now closed.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2018 19:03:11 GMT
Normally tesco open a bit later than 7 on a weekday.
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Post by Telemachus on Jan 5, 2018 19:03:38 GMT
I generally avoid giving to beggars but I did feel a bit guilty last year when I went into a Supermarket in Birmingham with an allegedly homeless beggar outside, and I came out fully loaded with bags of shopping, wine etc. I put the stuff into the car and went back to him, I asked him if he would like me to buy him a sandwich or a hot drink. He looked at me in disgust and declined my offer! He only wanted cash. I haven't spoken to any street beggars since. You see Nick that is where you reveal the true colours, get rebuffed once and you tar all with the same brush. Well I already had a suspicion that plenty of beggars were doing quite well out of it - career beggars - and this event just reinforced that belief! So yes that is my true colour. Is it a bad one?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2018 19:09:50 GMT
Not as bad as the fact you shop in tesco.
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Post by Graham on Jan 5, 2018 19:10:13 GMT
You see Nick that is where you reveal the true colours, get rebuffed once and you tar all with the same brush. Well I already had a suspicion that plenty of beggars were doing quite well out of it - career beggars - and this event just reinforced that belief! So yes that is my true colour. Is it a bad one? Yes I believe it is because those in real need get missed as all are assumed to be "career beggars" as you put it. As you found a food and cuppa rejected soon displays the professional, can't be away from the beat that long
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Post by lollygagger on Jan 5, 2018 19:12:36 GMT
You see Nick that is where you reveal the true colours, get rebuffed once and you tar all with the same brush. Well I already had a suspicion that plenty of beggars were doing quite well out of it - career beggars - and this event just reinforced that belief! So yes that is my true colour. Is it a bad one? Is it then a case of you having sympathy for a beggar up to a point, but you loose your sympathy if they're too successful? How much £ would you say is "understandable" and what should they do when they reach that level - go home?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2018 19:30:20 GMT
I hate all this.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Jan 5, 2018 19:40:33 GMT
Romanian gypsies have plenty of money for fags and gambling on fruit machines, and they own plently of very grand houses in Romania. It's a disgusting scam blessed by EU rules. They do the 'deaf & dumb scam', the 'gold ring con trick' and the give-you-a-rose-and-then-run-after-you-demanding-you-pay-for-it ruse. They should all be rounded up and taken to the Romanian Embassy and locked up in there with the poxy Romanian ambassador. I commend you for your restraint. I would have them all gassed.
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Post by Telemachus on Jan 5, 2018 19:49:47 GMT
Not as bad as the fact you shop in tesco. Not normally. One thing Tesco do well is Super Ice. Makes a great G and T! Although we have recently found other supermarkets doing it too. Anyway, when on the cut one occasionally has to let standards slip.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Jan 5, 2018 19:52:52 GMT
Not as bad as the fact you shop in tesco. Not normally. One thing Tesco do well is Super Ice. Makes a great G and T! Only poofs drink gin and tonic. Oh, wait!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2018 20:00:05 GMT
Not as bad as the fact you shop in tesco. Not normally. One thing Tesco do well is Super Ice. Makes a great G and T! Although we have recently found other supermarkets doing it too. Anyway, when on the cut one occasionally has to let standards slip. There do seem to be a lot of tesco shops beside water. And some sainsbury's. Not so many lovely waitrose units though. I'm not sure why it is but it seems to have happened before New Labour's "just build what you like" development policy otherwise I'm sure those supermarket sites would be housing.
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Post by Telemachus on Jan 5, 2018 20:12:49 GMT
Not normally. One thing Tesco do well is Super Ice. Makes a great G and T! Only poofs drink gin and tonic. Oh, wait! Exactly - foolish boy!
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Post by Telemachus on Jan 5, 2018 20:14:00 GMT
Not normally. One thing Tesco do well is Super Ice. Makes a great G and T! Although we have recently found other supermarkets doing it too. Anyway, when on the cut one occasionally has to let standards slip. There do seem to be a lot of tesco shops beside water. And some sainsbury's. Not so many lovely waitrose units though. I'm not sure why it is but it seems to have happened before New Labour's "just build what you like" development policy otherwise I'm sure those supermarket sites would be housing. BUT there is a fantastic Waitrose right by the canal in Chester. It has an integral champagne bar. You don’t get that in Lidl!
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