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Post by bargemast on Jan 26, 2018 11:50:38 GMT
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Post by patty on Jan 26, 2018 14:08:30 GMT
When you think in our youth there wasn't the single use plastics that are destroying our environment to-day....we come a long way in a very short time and I hope its not to late to clean up and do something to save our polluted world...
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Post by bargemast on Jan 26, 2018 14:34:13 GMT
Well Patty, I don't know if we"re not too late, if you read how much is added to this enormous mess already every year, it's very scary for the future generations.
Elsewhere was an article about the fish that's coming from the seas and the oceans, of which they always said that that was safer to eat than the fish from fish-farms, as they are fed with tricky stuff to make them grow quicker.
I works out that on several of these independent tests in different countries they found plastic particles inside the sea- and ocean fishes.
It does not sound promissing, and even less for the young people that still have their lives to live.
Peter.
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Post by naughtyfox on Jan 26, 2018 15:57:24 GMT
You got people like this around you? Country’s full of ’em now. People walkin’ around all day long every minute of the day, worried about everything. Worried about the air, worried about the water, worried about the soil. Worried about insecticides, pesticides, food additives, carcinogens, worried about radon gas, worried about asbestos, worried about saving endangered species.
Lemme tell ya bout endangered species, awright? Saving endangered species is just one more arrogant attempt by humans to control Nature. It’s arrogant meddling. It’s what got us in trouble in the first place. Doesn’t anybody understand that? Interfering with Nature. Over 90 percent, over, way over 90 percent, of the species that have ever lived on this planet, ever lived, are gone. Wooosh! They’re extinct. We didn’t kill them all. They just disappeared. That’s what nature does. They disappear these days at the rate of 25 a day—and I mean regardless of our behavior. Irrespective of how we act on this planet, 25 species that were here today will be gone tomorrow. Let them go gracefully. Leave Nature alone. Haven’t we done enough? We’re so self-important, so self-important. Everybody’s gonna save something now. Save the trees, save the bees, save the whales, save those snails. And the greatest arrogance of all, save the planet. What? Are these fucking people kidding me? Save the planet? We don’t even know how to take care of ourselves yet. We haven’t learned to care for one another—we’re gonna save the fuckin’ planet? I’m gettin’ tired of that shit. Tired of that shit. Tired.
I’m tired of fuckin’ Earth Day, I’m tired of these self-righteous environmentalists, these white bourgeoise liberals who think the only thing wrong with this country is there aren’t enough bicycle paths. People trying to make the world safe for their Volvos. Besides, environmentalist don’t give a shit about the planet, they don’t care about the planet, not in the abstract they don’t, not in the abstract they don’t. You know what they’re interested in? A clean place to live. Their own habitat. They’re worried that someday in the future they might be personally inconvenienced. Narrow, unenlightened self-interest doesn’t impress me. Besides, there is nothing wrong with the planet, nothing wrong with the planet. The planet is fine. The people are fucked. Difference. Difference. The planet is fine. Compared to the people, the planet is doin’ great! It’s been here four and a half billion years. Did you ever think about the arithmetic? The planet has been here four and a half billion years. We’ve been here, what? A hundred thousand? Maybe two hundred thousand and we’ve only been engaged in heavy industry for a little over two hundred years. Two hundred years versus four and a half billion. And we have the conceit to think that somehow we’re a threat? That somehow we’re gonna put in jeopardy this beautiful little blue-green ball that’s just a floatin’ around the sun? The planet has been through a lot worse than us. Been through all kinds of things worse than us. Been through earthquakes, volcanoes, plate tectonics, continental drift, solar flares, sunspots, magnetic storms, the magnetic reversal of the poles, hundreds of thousands of years of bombardment by comets and asteroids, and meteors, world-wide floods, tidal waves, world-wide fires, erosion, cosmic rays, recurring ice ages, and we think some plastic bags and some aluminum cans are going to make a difference?
The planet isn’t going anywhere. We are! We’re goin’ away. Pack your shit, Folks, we’re goin’ away. We won’t leave much of a trace either, thank god for that. Maybe a little styrofoam, maybe, a little styrofoam. Planet’ll be here and we’ll be long gone. Just another failed mutation. Just another closed-end biological mistake, an evolutionary cul de sac. The planet will shake us off like a bad case of fleas, a surface nuisance. You wanna know how the planet’s doin’? Ask those people at Pompeii, who were frozen into position from volcanic ash. How the planet’s doin’. Wanna know if the planet’s alright, ask those people in Mexico City or Armenia, or a hundred other places buried under thousands of tons of earthquake rubble if they feel like a threat to the planet this week. How about those people in Kilauea, Hawaii who built their homes right next to an active volcano and then wonder why they have lava in the living room. The planet will be here for a long, long, long time after we’re gone and it will heal itself, it will cleanse itself ’cuz that’s what it does. It’s a self-correcting system. The air and the water will recover, the earth will be renewed, and if it’s true that plastic is not degradable well, the planet will simply incorporate plastic into a new paradigm: the earth plus plastic. The earth doesn’t share our prejudice towards plastic. Plastic came out of the earth. The earth probably sees plastic as just another one of its children. Could be the only reason the earth allows us to be spawned from it in the first place: it wanted plastic for itself. Didn’t know how to make it, needed us. Could be the answer to our age-old philosophical question, “Why are we here?” “Plastic, assholes.”
So, so, the plastic is here, our job is done, we can be phased out now. And I think that’s really started already, don’t you? I mean, to be fair, the planet probably sees us as a mild threat, something to be dealt with, but I’m sure the planet will defend itself in the manner of a large organism like a bee hive or an ant colony can muster a defense. I’m sure the planet will think of something. What would you do, if you were the planet trying to defend against this pesky, troublesome species? Let’s see, what might, viruses, viruses might be good, they seem vulnerable to viruses. And, viruses are tricky, always mutating and forming new strains whenever a vaccine is developed. Perhaps this first virus could be one that compromises the immune system in these creatures. Perhaps a human immuno deficiency virus making them vulnerable to all sorts of other diseases and infections that might come along, and maybe it could be spread sexually, making them a little reluctant to engage in the act of reproduction.
Well, that’s a poetic note. And it’s a start. But I can dream, can’t I? I don’t worry about the little things, bees, trees, whales, snails. I think we’re part of a greater wisdom than we’ll ever understand, a higher order, call it what you want. You know what I call it? The Big Electron. The Big Electron. Woooohhhh, woooohhhh, woooohhhh. It doesn’t punish, it doesn’t reward, it doesn’t judge at all. It just is, and so are we, for a little while. Thanks for being here with me for a little while tonight.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2018 16:10:35 GMT
Wow again!
Sometimes what you write is mind blowing, good and bad.
The place wouldn't be the same without your weird musings.
Rog
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Post by lollygagger on Jan 26, 2018 16:18:29 GMT
Wow again! Sometimes what you write is mind blowing, good and bad. The place wouldn't be the same without your weird musings. Rog He cuts and pastes most of it from elsewhere.
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Post by naughtyfox on Jan 26, 2018 16:24:33 GMT
Wow again! Sometimes what you write is mind blowing, good and bad. Not mine - George Carlin's. Have posted before, here's the vid:
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Post by peterboat on Jan 26, 2018 16:36:02 GMT
Well I for one would like my children to be a round a wee while longer, foxy doesnt care, I do and clearly plenty of others are waking up to the fact, that we are very close to the point where we and a lot of other species will be extinct! because we didnt give a shit. Its a shame that the dont give a shits couldnt be the first to go that way giving the carers more time to save themselves and the planet
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Post by kris on Jan 26, 2018 16:36:14 GMT
You wouldn't guess that foxy is a hippy from looking at him.
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Post by patty on Jan 27, 2018 21:32:28 GMT
Well whether Foxy cuts n pastes to me not really relevant..at least he makes the effort..I don't think i have ever cut n pasted my replies... I like to protect the environment and i try really hard to ensure around where i live is looked after..if we all did that then there wouldn't be so great a problem. Ive ordered loads of wild flower seed to replace(ha ha) the knotweed in a field that isn't mine...why?...I want to do my bit..I want to see the butterflies in abundance as they were when I was young... Im no cynic, I want to do what i can so there is a future for my grand children...that bees and insects thrive....My son in law thinks Im crazy for trying to sort out problems in fields that are not mine, for which I will get no thanks...maybe I am
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