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Post by Jim on Feb 6, 2018 9:11:41 GMT
They've not given up... www.waterways.org.uk/news_campaigns/bulletins/iwa_bulletin_20180201FURTHER TALKS ON EA TRANSFER LOOK LIKELY IWA is extremely disappointed at the announcement from the Environment Agency that Defra has been unable to agree Canal & River Trust’s recent proposal for taking over the navigations run by EA. However the office of the Defra Minister with responsibility for the Waterways has confirmed that Dr Thérèse Coffey is open to seeing a revised proposal from CRT. |
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Post by NigelMoore on Feb 6, 2018 9:16:06 GMT
They've not given up... www.waterways.org.uk/news_campaigns/bulletins/iwa_bulletin_20180201FURTHER TALKS ON EA TRANSFER LOOK LIKELY IWA is extremely disappointed at the announcement from the Environment Agency that Defra has been unable to agree Canal & River Trust’s recent proposal for taking over the navigations run by EA. However the office of the Defra Minister with responsibility for the Waterways has confirmed that Dr Thérèse Coffey is open to seeing a revised proposal from CRT. It is, perhaps, an appropriate time for concerned boaters to write in en masse to Dr Coffey with the details of an opposing view to that of the IWA. |
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Post by kris on Feb 6, 2018 9:24:19 GMT
They've not given up... www.waterways.org.uk/news_campaigns/bulletins/iwa_bulletin_20180201FURTHER TALKS ON EA TRANSFER LOOK LIKELY IWA is extremely disappointed at the announcement from the Environment Agency that Defra has been unable to agree Canal & River Trust’s recent proposal for taking over the navigations run by EA. However the office of the Defra Minister with responsibility for the Waterways has confirmed that Dr Thérèse Coffey is open to seeing a revised proposal from CRT. Iy is, perhaps, an appropriate time for concerned boaters to write in en masse to Dr Coffey with the details of an opposing view to that of the IWA. you wouldn't happen to have her email would you? |
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Post by NigelMoore on Feb 6, 2018 9:57:43 GMT
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Post by kris on Feb 6, 2018 10:00:19 GMT
Thank you very much.
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Post by Allan on Feb 7, 2018 13:38:40 GMT
They've not given up... www.waterways.org.uk/news_campaigns/bulletins/iwa_bulletin_20180201FURTHER TALKS ON EA TRANSFER LOOK LIKELY IWA is extremely disappointed at the announcement from the Environment Agency that Defra has been unable to agree Canal & River Trust’s recent proposal for taking over the navigations run by EA. However the office of the Defra Minister with responsibility for the Waterways has confirmed that Dr Thérèse Coffey is open to seeing a revised proposal from CRT. IWA have not given up but I suspect C&RT have. The rejected proposal came about because a previous waterways minister said he was still open to offers when the EA transfer was last kicked into the long grass. Much of the drive for C&RT's proposal came from the EA. I think Defra wants somebody to come forward saying that they can run these waterways at less cost to the public purse than at present. I think C&RT probably want money and a large dowry for investment. In the short to medium term it probably will not happen. However, I can visualise a scenario where it might come up again. The grant agreement ceases in 2027 and EA transfer might be bundled into any new agreement. |
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Post by kris on Feb 7, 2018 18:09:51 GMT
It makes you wonder how much money CaRT have wasted on this already?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2018 18:23:42 GMT
It makes you wonder how much money CaRT have wasted on this already? They surveyed every lock on the Nene and Great Ouse by road around 3-4 years ago, given that it's 66 miles via river from Northampton to the Dog in a Doublet and about 60 from Bedford to Denver via the 100' (no navigation structures on the Ely Ouse) they must have chewed through a fair bit of diesel and time on that little excersise alone. God knows what the total road milage for that was, I bet you could add the two navigation distances together and times it by three at least - especially if they were traveling from offices in MK each time. |
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Post by kris on Feb 7, 2018 18:26:41 GMT
The survey is only probably a tenth of the cost of the whole presentation. I wonder if this is why party has had to boworrow 150 million?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2018 18:29:45 GMT
They've not given up... www.waterways.org.uk/news_campaigns/bulletins/iwa_bulletin_20180201FURTHER TALKS ON EA TRANSFER LOOK LIKELY IWA is extremely disappointed at the announcement from the Environment Agency that Defra has been unable to agree Canal & River Trust’s recent proposal for taking over the navigations run by EA. However the office of the Defra Minister with responsibility for the Waterways has confirmed that Dr Thérèse Coffey is open to seeing a revised proposal from CRT. IWA have not given up but I suspect C&RT have. The rejected proposal came about because a previous waterways minister said he was still open to offers when the EA transfer was last kicked into the long grass. Much of the drive for C&RT's proposal came from the EA. I think Defra wants somebody to come forward saying that they can run these waterways at less cost to the public purse than at present. I think C&RT probably want money and a large dowry for investment. In the short to medium term it probably will not happen. However, I can visualise a scenario where it might come up again. The grant agreement ceases in 2027 and EA transfer might be bundled into any new agreement. I'm no expert and am incapable of seeing the "bigger picture" but this smells like privatisation . tell me I am wrong. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2018 18:31:52 GMT
The survey is only probably a tenth of the cost of the whole presentation. I wonder if this is why party has had to boworrow 150 million? It's a shame they didn't go by boat. Three days on each river would have been plenty of time, they could have seen firsthand the things that need sorting too. As you say, they have pissed into the wind a seemingly unquantifiable amount of money on this little vanity project. C&RT licence holders loose out. EA boaters get away with it by the skin of their teeth! |
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Post by kris on Feb 7, 2018 19:53:26 GMT
Licences going up this year 7% "in line with inflation" (inflation in Zimbabwe?) If only it was 7% foxy, if crt's get their way I reckon mine could go up 120%. |
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Post by kris on Feb 7, 2018 19:54:50 GMT
The survey is only probably a tenth of the cost of the whole presentation. I wonder if this is why party has had to boworrow 150 million? It's a shame they didn't go by boat. Three days on each river would have been plenty of time, they could have seen firsthand the things that need sorting too. As you say, they have pissed into the wind a seemingly unquantifiable amount of money on this little vanity project. C&RT licence holders loose out. EA boaters get away with it by the skin of their teeth! Let's hope the ea waters stay out of CaRT's crasp. |
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Post by peterboat on Feb 7, 2018 20:12:06 GMT
The survey is only probably a tenth of the cost of the whole presentation. I wonder if this is why party has had to boworrow 150 million? I read that it was to buy more canalside property it was on one of Jenlyns links not that I believe them, I think its for pension deficits etc |
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Post by Allan on Feb 7, 2018 22:52:19 GMT
The survey is only probably a tenth of the cost of the whole presentation. I wonder if this is why party has had to boworrow 150 million? I read that it was to buy more canalside property it was on one of Jenlyns links not that I believe them, I think its for pension deficits etc The story in narrowboatworld was taken from an article in the floater - www.thefloater.org/the-floater-january-2018/crt-to-borrow-150m-via-bondsThe information in the article came out of a foi request to Defra for minutes of a grant review meeting, previous foi requests and C&RT accounts. With regard to what the money might be used for, I considered - Improving the state of the waterways. Plugging the black hole in the pension fund. Assisting with a takeover of EA waterways. Investing in the expectation of producing an annual income. In the article I came out in favour of the last option on the basis of that was what they did with the £50m they borrowed via the RCF. C&RT has subsequently announced that the £150 will be invested to produce annual income of £2-3m a year. |
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