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Post by kris on Jan 30, 2018 17:13:11 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2018 18:31:06 GMT
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Post by kris on Jan 30, 2018 18:35:11 GMT
Thanks for that Martin, I've been meaning to buy a copy of that for a while.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2018 18:38:25 GMT
Great pictures kris. Thanks.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2018 18:43:20 GMT
The first picture is intriguing as it shows a barge with sail towing another barge without sail but also a towing line going forwards . so was there a powered boat in front? The little bit of white water at the bows seems to show the boat moving at a good speed. Would this really have been feasible just with sails?
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Post by kris on Jan 30, 2018 18:45:00 GMT
The first picture is intriguing as it shows a barge with sail towing another barge without sail but also a towing line going forwards . so was there a powered boat in front? The little bit of white water at the bows seems to show the boat moving at a good speed. Would this really have been feasible just with sails? no they are being towed by a motor I would have thought. Which leads to the question why have the sail up? But who knows?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2018 18:47:29 GMT
I was wondering if they were being towed by a steam tug and that putting the sails up on the middle boat saved some coal if the wind was in the right direction.
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Post by kris on Jan 30, 2018 18:49:39 GMT
Yes it could be a steam tug. It does look like there's some wind in the sail, so it will be doing something. Although when it's raised in the middle like that? It's to spill the wind. So who knows really. But I do like the photo.
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Post by bargemast on Jan 30, 2018 18:49:56 GMT
The first picture is intriguing as it shows a barge with sail towing another barge without sail but also a towing line going forwards . so was there a powered boat in front? The little bit of white water at the bows seems to show the boat moving at a good speed. Would this really have been feasible just with sails? no they are being towed by a motor I would have thought. Which leads to the question why have the sail up? But who knows? Surely to help the tug, as the wind was in the right direction, and every little bit of help was a bonus of course. Peter. I like these old photos b.t.w.
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Post by patty on Jan 30, 2018 21:48:20 GMT
Lovely photos
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Post by Jim on Jan 31, 2018 12:17:42 GMT
Is that Tony at the ellum? great pics.
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Post by IainS on Jan 31, 2018 14:21:11 GMT
Yes it could be a steam tug. It does look like there's some wind in the sail, so it will be doing something. Although when it's raised in the middle like that? It's to spill the wind. So who knows really. But I do like the photo. Maybe to keep the deck clear?
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Post by bargemast on Jan 31, 2018 14:30:03 GMT
Yes it could be a steam tug. It does look like there's some wind in the sail, so it will be doing something. Although when it's raised in the middle like that? It's to spill the wind. So who knows really. But I do like the photo. Maybe to keep the deck clear? I don't think somehow that the sails when not in use where stored on the decks, they weren't on our sailing barges. Peter.
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Post by IainS on Jan 31, 2018 23:15:07 GMT
Maybe to keep the deck clear? I don't think somehow that the sails when not in use where stored on the decks, they weren't on our sailing barges. Peter. I wasn't suggesting that they were, but the foot of the sail, at least on the models, is close to the deck, and having the sail partially clewed up would keep the sail out of the way of anyone working on deck. Looking at the steerer in the photo, the higher centre of the sail might have improved his vision, although that doesn't look much of a problem in the second photo.
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Post by kris on Feb 1, 2018 6:00:21 GMT
I don't think somehow that the sails when not in use where stored on the decks, they weren't on our sailing barges. Peter. I wasn't suggesting that they were, but the foot of the sail, at least on the models, is close to the deck, and having the sail partially clewed up would keep the sail out of the way of anyone working on deck. Looking at the steerer in the photo, the higher centre of the sail might have improved his vision, although that doesn't look much of a problem in the second photo. having the centre of the sail raised in the centre like that, is definately to spill the wind.
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