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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2018 8:00:00 GMT
Came across a boat yesterday, blocking the canal at Newbold.
Jumped onto it to get the centre rope and pulled it back in. He'd moored using two bank pins at each end, but the stern pair had pulled out. Having 'eyes' one pin was still attached to the rope, the second on the bank luckily.
Although he'd used two pins (threading a second through the eye of the first) he'd only hammered them in 4 to 6".
Leverage suggests used that way the pins are bound to pull out.
When I use pins (which is my last resort) I hammer the first flush to the ground before hammering a second (opposite angle) through it's eye.
Are you a flush to the ground hammerer?
Rog
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Post by Telemachus on Feb 1, 2018 8:16:32 GMT
Definitely. It is amazing how badly moored some boats are, pins hardly in, 3 feet of slack and ropes pulling on loop. Of course these are the same boaters who come out screaming when you pass at tickover because their boat has bobbed about a bit. We’ve ceased retrying people’s boats that were obviously moored stupidly.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2018 8:30:07 GMT
I left my boat at Milford one day, on piling pins.
On return, one end was adrift. I hadn't noticed when mooring that there was some damage to the piling which had allowed the pin to drop out as a boat passed (albeit it must have been quite swift).
Since then, I always place piling pins against the retaining bolts for extra security, and use chains if in doubt.
I would never pass an adrift boat without securing it, in the hope that others will perform the same courtesy to my boat.
I believe most boaters feel the same.
Rog
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Post by Telemachus on Feb 1, 2018 8:34:30 GMT
I left my boat at Milford one day, on piling pins. On return, one end was adrift. I hadn't noticed when mooring that there was some damage to the piling which had allowed the pin to drop out as a boat passed (albeit it must have been quite swift). Since then, I always place piling pins against the retaining bolts for extra security, and use chains if in doubt. I would never pass an adrift boat without securing it, in the hope that others will perform the same courtesy to my boat. I believe most boaters feel the same. Rog We never use piling hooks, they come out too easily as you discovered. Always chains, they are no more difficult to use and vastly more secure. If you constantly retie the boats of people who are too lazy or stupid to make a vaguely reasonable job of tying their boat up, they will never learn the need to do it properly. A loose boat on a canal is not going to come to any harm, but if the owner is inconvenienced a bit they might get the message.
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Post by kris on Feb 1, 2018 8:37:25 GMT
Exactly Rog it is polite to tie up a boat if you find it adrift. Something most boaters would do I think. But Nick is too full of his own importance to help other people, unless it's being a pontificating ex spurt on the Internet.
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Post by Telemachus on Feb 1, 2018 8:46:16 GMT
Exactly Rog it is polite to tie up a boat if you find it a drift. Something most boaters would do I think. But Nick is too full of his own importance to help othe people, unless it's being a pontificating exspurt on the Internet. I’ve retied plenty of boats, just not ones where it was obvious that eg the pins had only been knocked in a few inches with the rope attached to the top. The trouble with your spelling of exspurt is that no-one knows if it was deliberate/clever or just your usual “can’t be bothered to spell properly” style.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2018 8:58:09 GMT
That's the only occasion in all our boating years, when a piling pin has become detached. I use chains whenever I'm going out for the day, or leaving the boat unattended longer than usual, but routinely use piling pins (nappy pin style), and without problem. The one incident was my mistake, and putting the pin where the retaining bolt is, prevents that happening. Do most people on here use chains? (For mooring ) Rog
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Post by Telemachus on Feb 1, 2018 9:00:52 GMT
That's the only occasion in all our boating years, when a piling pin has become detached. I use chains whenever I'm going out for the day, or leaving the boat unattended longer than usual, but routinely use piling pins (nappy pin style), and without problem. The one incident was my mistake, and putting the pin where the retaining bolt is, prevents that happening. Do most people on here use chains? (For mooring ) Rog Apart from the security, I hate the way piling hooks “Clack” noisily when boats go past if the lines are just a tiny bit slack.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2018 9:10:04 GMT
Exactly Rog it is polite to tie up a boat if you find it a drift. Something most boaters would do I think. But Nick is too full of his own importance to help othe people, unless it's being a pontificating exspurt on the Internet. I’ve retied plenty of boats, just not ones where it was obvious that eg the pins had only been knocked in a few inches with the rope attached to the top. The trouble with your spelling of exspurt is that no-one knows if it was deliberate/clever or just your usual “can’t be bothered to spell properly” style. But how do you know if they have only been knocked in a few inches, do you stick your willy down the hole to test depth, what if its more than 5 inches deep? Confused.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2018 9:21:01 GMT
Ram it in up to the hilt Rog, it's the only way
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Post by Telemachus on Feb 1, 2018 9:33:48 GMT
I’ve retied plenty of boats, just not ones where it was obvious that eg the pins had only been knocked in a few inches with the rope attached to the top. The trouble with your spelling of exspurt is that no-one knows if it was deliberate/clever or just your usual “can’t be bothered to spell properly” style. But how do you know if they have only been knocked in a few inches, do you stick your willy down the hole to test depth, what if its more than 5 inches deep? Confused. Haha 9” if you don’t mind! Obviously you can’t always tell, but if one pin is dangling in the water and the other is more or less upright with most of it above ground, they obviously weren’t hammered in much. Pins pull out laterally, not vertically (unless it is say a very high bow tied to a too-close pin). On our KandA trip last year (which doesn’t have a lot of piling but does have lots of soft ground) we retied about 5 boats and left 1.
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Post by quaysider on Feb 1, 2018 9:54:36 GMT
We're a two pins "balls deep" at both ends kind of mooorer... when we have to - otherwise it's chains... I've lost count of how many times I've lost/dropped nappy pin in to the cut never to be seen again.
Chains all the way...
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Post by Telemachus on Feb 1, 2018 9:57:21 GMT
We're a two pins "balls deep" at both ends kind of mooorer... when we have to - otherwise it's chains... I've lost count of how many times I've lost/dropped nappy pin in to the cut never to be seen again. Chains all the way... Tell Magnetman where you’ve been, and he’ll be along shortly...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2018 9:59:59 GMT
But how do you know if they have only been knocked in a few inches, do you stick your willy down the hole to test depth, what if its more than 5 inches deep? Confused. Haha 9” if you don’t mind! Grown a pony tail have you?
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Post by kris on Feb 1, 2018 10:01:15 GMT
His nose is getting longer.
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