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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2016 17:21:55 GMT
Well you have to hand it to these Parliamentary Committees who are currently investigating the failure of BHS and the
subsequent loss of 11000 jobs and of course the massive Pension Deficit and also working practises at Sports Direct.
Yesterday we had Mike Ashley owner of Sports Direct giving evidence and to be honest he didn't say much other than he
couldn't be expected to know everything nor be everywhere at once and as for the issues raised,he had people dealing with
them.As the hearing was nearing an end he was asked about his muted bid regarding BHS which came to nothing,"Did you
want to buy BHS" someone shouted from the floor,his lawyer raised objections to the question but Ashley answered "Yes
I did want to buy BHS".
Phillip Green former owner of BHS has denied that this was the case and Newspaper reports today have accused Green of
blocking the sale to Ashley because of a grudge.
Well the good news for everyone is that Mike Ashley has been summoned tonight to appear before the BHS inquiry also
to give his version of events.These Parliamentary Inquiries are often a case of closing the stable door after the horse has
bolted,but I certainly hope Green is squirming in Monaco tonight,why should these people have to go without a pension
on account of his failure as a Businessman.Give us back the 400 million Phil or the Knighthood gets it !
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Post by haulierp on Jul 24, 2016 16:50:02 GMT
Well tomorrow we get to hear the verdict of the Parliamentary Select Committee who have been looking into the collapse of BHS.
Early reports today in the Sunday Times and other publications, regarding the content of the report, say that it will find against
Sir Phillip Green concluding that he enriched himself to the tune of £400 million,did nothing to remedy the Pensions Deficit before
hiving it off for a £1 to a three time bankrupt.I should point out that so far he has contributed nothing to aid the Pensions Deficit.
Shades of Robert Maxwell don't you think ?
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Post by PaulG2 on Jul 24, 2016 18:05:59 GMT
Actually the Green family enriched themselves to the tune of £580 million.
Personally, I think the family should be forced to fully fund the pension scheme or face prison. "Sir" Phillip likes to call himself a billionaire, so by his reckoning he can afford it.
Worldwide, pension plans have been treated like rich peoples' slush funds and there are no criminal penalties imposed for 1%ers like Green who steal from the very people whose labor is responsible for their riches.
Personally, I'd prefer the guillotine for people like Green, however, if just a few of his ilk were imprisoned it would send a message to the 1% that they are not above the law and that would probably have an effect on their conduct. As it is now, when the 1% cheat the world out of £1 billion they pay a £200 million penalty, without admitting any wrongdoing, and walk away with an £800 million profit, while regulators and law enforcement say, "Look at the size of that fine. We sure taught them a lesson."
Meanwhile the poor schlep that robs $200 from a convenience store gets five years in prison for their crime.
The only way that there will ever be economic justice in this world is when the 1% are forced to face the same penalties for their crimes as common folks do.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Jul 24, 2016 19:02:19 GMT
Personally, I'd prefer the guillotine for people like Green Me too, the French had it so right during their revolution. We just seem to constantly bend over and take it. |
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Post by haulierp on Jul 24, 2016 20:12:47 GMT
I agree with you both,I was just looking at his picture earlier,an odious character if ever I saw one.
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Post by haulierp on Jul 25, 2016 8:38:28 GMT
Well its coming fast and furious this morning with Frank Field on Radio Four branding Green worse than Maxwell because Maxwell apparently intended
to make good,but simply had no money to do so.Here we have a man worth £2.3 bn who has still done nothing.There are other failures of course,Lord
Grabiner who chairs Greens Holding Company Taveta and of course Goldman Sachs who lent Green and his hiving off of BHS the veneer of credibility.
Will Theresa May act to strip the knighthood,thats the question and will Green be shamed into paying to avoid the danger of his Brands becoming Toxic
on the High Street
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Post by Clinton Cool on Jul 25, 2016 9:36:49 GMT
Same old story: one rule for one group of people, another for the rest of us.
Let's look at an example that would apply to the rest of us: You're driving down the road when someone rings you on your phone. You know you shouldn't answer but you do. You've been careless and irresponsible. If you happen to kill someone as you talk on the phone you'll doubtless receive a prison sentence, whether using your phone was the primary reason for the accident, or not.
That's how our law works. It's mainly based on intent but also applies punishment when the outcome of an incident is bad, if the person responsible was careless or irresponsible.
These fat cats know full well that their responsibility as a business owner goes beyond making money for their family. If a business owner genuinely doesn't know that his staff are being treated like slaves he's been careless and irresponsible. He should know and if he doesn't, he should be punished, when the outcome is bad.
Probably the best example of these double standards is Blair. By apologising, he has pleaded guilty to not behaving as he should. He should have checked whether weapons existed. By not doing so, he made the wrong decision. A huge mistake that has resulted in the death of hundreds of thousands and the displacement of millions. No punishment for him, different laws apply to his type.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2016 9:57:57 GMT
Same old story: one rule for one group of people, another for the rest of us. Let's look at an example that would apply to the rest of us: You're driving down the road when someone rings you on your phone. You know you shouldn't answer but you do. You've been careless and irresponsible. If you happen to kill someone as you talk on the phone you'll doubtless receive a prison sentence, whether using your phone was the primary reason for the accident, or not. That's how our law works. It's mainly based on intent but also applies punishment when the outcome of an incident is bad, if the person responsible was careless or irresponsible. These fat cats know full well that their responsibility as a business owner goes beyond making money for their family. If a business owner genuinely doesn't know that his staff are being treated like slaves he's been careless and irresponsible. He should know and if he doesn't, he should be punished, when the outcome is bad. Probably the best example of these double standards is Blair. By apologising, he has pleaded guilty to not behaving as he should. He should have checked whether weapons existed. By not doing so, he made the wrong decision. A huge mistake that has resulted in the death of hundreds of thousands and the displacement of millions. No punishment for him, different laws apply to his type. The elite have always been in control of the law using money and other influences (except when there was the odd revolution). Greed still rules sadly. On the plus side, modern media, although being a useful brainwashing tool, has made it easier to report the truth before it has been 'altered'. This means those pulling the strings have to be a bit more careful now. What can we do about it anyway? How would a modern 'revolution' manifest itself? I suppose hacktivists are partly a form of revolution. Exposing the truth before it gets altered is another. |
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Post by peterboat on Jul 25, 2016 10:35:39 GMT
He is squirming now though I think its time to bring out the thumbscrews and rack for green and blair both are criminals that have ruined peoples lives!!
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Post by haulierp on Jul 25, 2016 14:37:16 GMT
Same old story: one rule for one group of people, another for the rest of us. Let's look at an example that would apply to the rest of us: You're driving down the road when someone rings you on your phone. You know you shouldn't answer but you do. You've been careless and irresponsible. If you happen to kill someone as you talk on the phone you'll doubtless receive a prison sentence, whether using your phone was the primary reason for the accident, or not. That's how our law works. It's mainly based on intent but also applies punishment when the outcome of an incident is bad, if the person responsible was careless or irresponsible. These fat cats know full well that their responsibility as a business owner goes beyond making money for their family. If a business owner genuinely doesn't know that his staff are being treated like slaves he's been careless and irresponsible. He should know and if he doesn't, he should be punished, when the outcome is bad. Probably the best example of these double standards is Blair. By apologising, he has pleaded guilty to not behaving as he should. He should have checked whether weapons existed. By not doing so, he made the wrong decision. A huge mistake that has resulted in the death of hundreds of thousands and the displacement of millions. No punishment for him, different laws apply to his type. The elite have always been in control of the law using money and other influences (except when there was the odd revolution). Greed still rules sadly. On the plus side, modern media, although being a useful brainwashing tool, has made it easier to report the truth before it has been 'altered'. This means those pulling the strings have to be a bit more careful now. What can we do about it anyway? How would a modern 'revolution' manifest itself? I suppose hacktivists are partly a form of revolution. Exposing the truth before it gets altered is another. In my lifetime and probably yours, Brexit was the closest I have seen to something resembling Revolution,is that a ball that maybe could be pushed farther ? I don't know.Perhaps more pertinent is the question,could Brexit have happened without the Middle Classes ? Revolutions historically have to contain the "Educated Middle" once they are involved the result is inevitable as it simply becomes a Numbers Game |
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Post by canaldweller on Jul 25, 2016 15:55:08 GMT
If I had a quid for every time a politician has used the phrase "we must learn the lessons...".
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Post by hilda on Jul 27, 2016 16:18:39 GMT
green and blair, greedy dispicable sad bas££terds. (Iam in a bad mood today sorry) hilda
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Post by PaulG2 on Jul 27, 2016 17:49:14 GMT
green and blair, greedy dispicable sad bas££terds. (Iam in a bad mood today sorry) hilda You changed your hair - looks good! It flatters your sexy ears! |
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Post by naughtyfox on Jul 27, 2016 20:08:04 GMT
green and blair, greedy dispicable sad bas££terds. (Iam in a bad mood today sorry) hilda No need to apologise for being in a bad mood, Hilda, that's what this site is for! Speak your mind. Let it all out. |
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Post by haulierp on Jul 27, 2016 20:12:15 GMT
green and blair, greedy dispicable sad bas££terds. (Iam in a bad mood today sorry) hilda You changed your hair - looks good! It flatters your sexy ears! That picture of Hilda is a must for The Composters Toilet,I feel it would perhaps aid his constipation  |
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