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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2018 20:13:21 GMT
I was talking to a bloke recently and he suggested a strategy if you need to stop the boat and leave it for a while in London.
What you do is just pull in to the side and fuck off. Don't bother tying it up just leave.
If its a steel boat and you have fenders on there its unlikely to come to any harm. Bridges might be a problem but not severe unless there are gales forecast .
Seems like quite a sound approach to mooring in areas with too many boats or no mooring attachment points. Perhaps leave a GPS tracker on board just to keep an eye on it.
Carry one of my nice grappling hooks with 40ft of line in order to re-acquire the vessel on your return.
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Post by patty on Feb 5, 2018 7:24:26 GMT
I was talking to a bloke recently and he suggested a strategy if you need to stop the boat and leave it for a while in London. What you do is just pull in to the side and fuck off. Don't bother tying it up just leave. If its a steel boat and you have fenders on there its unlikely to come to any harm. Bridges might be a problem but not severe unless there are gales forecast . Seems like quite a sound approach to mooring in areas with too many boats or no mooring attachment points. Perhaps leave a GPS tracker on board just to keep an eye on it. Carry one of my nice grappling hooks with 40ft of line in order to re-acquire the vessel on your return. I can sort of visualise London's Canal System with narrowboats gently drifting free from constraints.......
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Post by peterboat on Feb 5, 2018 8:48:52 GMT
Great idea get a through flow going and wash them all out onto the Thames and into the sea Perfik
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Post by NigelMoore on Feb 5, 2018 13:22:22 GMT
The London enforcement division is getting tougher though - this has been recently flagged up: an article in the Evening Standard over the destruction of a floating home in Islington, by CaRT. www.standard.co.uk/news/london/pair-forced-out-of-floating-wendy-house-with-a-roof-made-out-of-foxtons-for-sale-signs-a3757936.html It scarcely seems possible, even for CaRT, that such action was taken without warning, or adherence to what the CaRT spokesperson described as: “ strict procedures to make sure we act within the law.” According to the article, the ‘houseboat’ had only been placed in the water for a fortnight – if true, the action was hardly in conformity with the “ not less than 28 days” notice required under s.8. Even if it was not considered to be a ‘vessel’ under s.8, s.9 [removal of objects] gives no power to destroy on the spot, only to removal, with 14 days notice to be given once in the authority’s custody, to any identified owner, allowing them to retake possession. The owners claim, in the article, to have been in the process of “ trying to get it registered”. I sincerely hope that a great deal of the background has been omitted from the article, but the quoted CaRT response – to the effect that such “ craft” [their word, so they were not treating it as a s.9 object] had to be both “ licensed and crucially, safe” suggests otherwise. It seems evident that no inspection had been made to identify potential safety issues, and that this was the first contact. It would be good to hear some more fulsome explanation of the events from CaRT than that quoted. Otherwise, this has to be considered one of the most extreme and summary actions ever taken by a waterways authority.
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Post by kris on Feb 5, 2018 13:30:41 GMT
Difficult to tell from that article what actually went on.
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Post by Jim on Feb 5, 2018 13:51:46 GMT
The offending item....
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Post by kris on Feb 5, 2018 14:11:38 GMT
The offending item.... have you seen the chap with the floating shed on the L&L? IAt least he got his registered and it has a valid liscence. So must have safety cert and insurance. Ps it doesn't offend me
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Post by NigelMoore on Feb 5, 2018 14:53:55 GMT
It doesn't offend me either - in fact, I think it is quite stylish, in a cute way. That does not mean that they ought not to have have pre-arranged the necessary paperwwork and licensing, and to have moored elsewhere than in front of a 'no mooring' sign. In fact, of course, the appearance is irrelevant, the issue is whether the actions taken were lawful and proportionate. It was an offence to have brought this onto the canal, and the proper procedure would have been to notify the inhabitants of what they needed to do to be compliant with licensing requirements; if that failed to achieve the desired result, then a prosecution should ensue - though with the Ravenscroft judgment, proportionality does not enter the picture, and CaRT could have s.8'd it as a first recourse without fear of court censure - but they have not, on the face of the article, exercised that power either, so I am more than curious what powers they DID purport to exercise.
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Post by kris on Feb 5, 2018 15:01:59 GMT
It doesn't offend me either - in fact, I think it is quite stylish, in a cute way. That does not mean that they ought not to have have pre-arranged the necessary paperwwork and licensing, and to have moored elsewhere than in front of a 'no mooring' sign. In fact, of course, the appearance is irrelevant, the issue is whether the actions taken were lawful and proportionate. It was an offence to have brought this onto the canal, and the proper procedure would have been to notify the inhabitants of what they needed to do to be compliant with licensing requirements; if that failed to achieve the desired result, then a prosecution should ensue - though with the Ravenscroft judgment, proportionality does not enter the picture, and CaRT could have s.8'd it as a first recourse without fear of court censure - but they have not, on the face of the article, exercised that power either, so I am more than curious what powers they DID purport to exercise. i completely agree with what you have said, I think from the article it's difficult to tell exactly what happened. I suppose from CaRT's angle they would be very worried that other people would catch on and copy this example. Iit doesn't excuse acting illegally if that is what CaRT have in fact done.
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Post by kris on Feb 5, 2018 15:16:02 GMT
Just for anybody who hasn't seen the shed boat on the L&L www.readersheds.co.uk/share.cfm?SHARESHED=6348I can confirm that it has a registration number and last time I saw it was liscenced. I don't know how he's planing to pull it along on the Aire@ Calder or the Trent for that matter.
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Post by patty on Feb 5, 2018 16:14:04 GMT
The offending item.... Yeah but you have to admit it has a certain something...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2018 16:56:58 GMT
Isn't that simply an advert for the scum Foxtons estate agents? If it were genuine then it would have been made from a variety of different boards.
Marketing bullshit me thinks.
AirBnB scum used a floating advert so its not a new trend.
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Post by kris on Feb 5, 2018 17:02:45 GMT
Isn't that simply an advert for the scum Foxtons estate agents? If it were genuine then it would have been made from a variety of different boards. Marketing bullshit me thinks. AirBnB scum used a floating advert so its not a new trend. they might have used all the same boards for asthetic reasons.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Feb 5, 2018 17:05:24 GMT
Isn't that simply an advert for the scum Foxtons estate agents? If it were genuine then it would have been made from a variety of different boards. Marketing bullshit me thinks. AirBnB scum used a floating advert so its not a new trend. they might have used all the same boards for asthetic reasons. Probably got them out of a skip somewhere because the design was changed.
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Post by NigelMoore on Feb 5, 2018 17:20:03 GMT
I can sort of visualise London's Canal System with narrowboats gently drifting free from constraints....... You don’t need to imagine it – this was Brentford in the 1960’s, both narrowboats and barges drifting all over the place [and sunk].
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