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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2018 15:38:14 GMT
The future of small boat propulsion will be something completely unexpected. A sudden technological discovery.
I'm not a clairvoyant but I have a suspicion that it will be genetically modified large fish designed for boat haulage. All you would need to do would be stock the canals with lots of smaller fish for them to catch as they go along and it'd be almost as sustainable as dinosaur oil.
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Post by bargemast on Feb 6, 2018 15:44:03 GMT
Our car is a twenty year old Polo as we spend (usually) nine months on the boat each year, there seems little point spending on a new car to leave it in the garage. We dread having to replace it with all the modern computer chipped controls, warning lights, engine cut outs, and automatic lights and wipers that new cars have. Seems a recipe for undiagnosable problems as these cars get older, making the second hand car market even riskier. Perhaps we're just old grumps (but of course you're much older than me ) Rog In my heart I'm still only 25, but my heart is much older and needs regular computer check ups, which is much easier than on modern cars I'm happy to say Peter.
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Post by kris on Feb 6, 2018 16:20:58 GMT
I'll stick to something that I've got a chance of fixing myself. I know Peterboat is an evangelists for electric power and a little bit of a doomsayer about the future of diesels. But I don't think it will be as quick as he imagines. You might be able to dictate emission standards to new boats, but old boats? I don't think so. It's more worrying from a livaboard perspective about emission controls on chimneys. I think this will come in quicker than controls on engine emissions. I'm not against electric vechiles I think they are good, in certain situations. I think the future of transport is more mixed as regards energy sources than Peter thinks. Using kerosene/vegetable oil mixes in Diesel engines is a bit cleaner, you can also introduce lpg through the air intake. You can't do these sort of things with newer engines.
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Post by peterboat on Feb 6, 2018 18:36:33 GMT
I would like to think you are right Kris, but I know the new MOT regs due in April will test diesel cars by emissions, and not smoke, so the writing is on the wall for diesels! because like VW, makers have been telling porkies for years about the pollution diesels produce. As for Peter and variable valve timing its been on the go for 30 years or so, so nothing new there The issue with most boat engines is that they cant even make euro 1 never mind 6 which modern vehicles do so its easy to point a finger and say its a gross polluter it has to go
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Post by bargemast on Feb 6, 2018 19:06:23 GMT
I would like to think you are right Kris, but I know the new MOT regs due in April will test diesel cars by emissions, and not smoke, so the writing is on the wall for diesels! because like VW, makers have been telling porkies for years about the pollution diesels produce. As for Peter and variable valve timing its been on the go for 30 years or so, so nothing new there The issue with most boat engines is that they cant even make euro 1 never mind 6 which modern vehicles do so its easy to point a finger and say its a gross polluter it has to go To be honest I have to admit that I lost my interest in cars more than 40 years ago, before that it was my passion, but I prefered the life on the water after that. I don't need any fancy-, or electric cars for that matter, all I'm intersted in is having a car (rather old in my case) that's reliable, easy to maintain without the need for all the electronic equipment to set everything up to the specs, as on my old car everything is easy to do, parts are easy- and (more important) cheap to get, and easy to fit. Nobody will turn their head when I drive past, not like in the old days when my cars used to be beautiful and fancy, but that wasn't my reason for collecting them, it was only because I enjoyed driving them, and did that quite often in the middle of the night to have the roads that were much quieter already even during the day, to myself. During the day I had to test drive the cars before we could give them back to the clients that would rarely drive them as fast as we (I) used to do during the test rides. As I was a happy hard working sort of hippy at the time, I got regulary stopped by the police that thought that it was rather suspect to see someone like me in expensive cars racing along (it's good that there was no speed limit at the time on the motorways, as that was only in towns), they were even more surprised to see that several of these cars were my own. Later I knew all these guys, and if the stopped me, it was only to look under the bonnet and ask technical questions, as the police guys were passionate car drivers too, and we often raced against each other, with them in their Porsches. So these variable valve operations may have existed already for more than 30 years, but they didn't in my time, and I definitely don't want a car that has all this crap. But whatever I say (or write), if you want an electric car, I won't stop you, but I don't want to be stopped driving my car either. Peter.
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Post by kris on Feb 6, 2018 19:53:18 GMT
I think I'm going to make a downdraft wood gasifier, so I can run my diesel engines on biomass. That seems the best solution to me.
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