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Post by kris on Feb 10, 2018 10:24:27 GMT
It's quite clear to anybody who bothers to look into it, that the future of the waterways as a network is looking very precarious. This slow motion car crash is being presided over by Mr Parry, other senior managers at CaRT, the executive of the iwa and various mp's and ministers. The decline in maintenance since CaRT took over is quite marked and becoming very serious as the year on year decline mounts up. The borrowing of £150 million from the future of the waterways and the continuing selling off of property that they are supposed to be holding in trust for the nation is scandalous and criminal in my opinion. But if we are aware of all this, the people implementing it are also aware of the consequences of their actions. But they don't care, and seem to be acting according to some agenda other than securing the future of the waterways as a navigable network. so it's time for anybody you cares about the waterways to do something before it's too late. Please start talking to people about the state of the waterways and what CaRT are getting up to, email your mp and the minister responsible for the waterways. Basically it's time to get active if you want this lifestyle we all enjoy to continue.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2018 14:15:42 GMT
I think this is already happening to be honest.
People I know who own boats but don't live onboard are now telling me of their experiences where, for example, they have received C&RT contact for not moving (wrongly) and are expressing concern about the poor quality of repairs.
No disrespect, but your view with others, is particularly pessimistic.
I believe C&RT's performance is becoming a more prevalent discussion topic in general, which is good. I feel more and more people are watching and judging their performance, no doubt helped by interactions via social media.
Your pessimistic view is of course a possible outcome, but I hope and believe not. Too much effort has been put into opening waterways.
But you're right to say we should all encourage and promote this issue, and apply such pressure as we can.
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Post by kris on Feb 10, 2018 14:28:56 GMT
I think this is already happening to be honest. People I know who own boats but don't live onboard are now telling me of their experiences where, for example, they have received C&RT contact for not moving (wrongly) and are expressing concern about the poor quality of repairs. No disrespect, but your view with others, is particularly pessimistic. I believe C&RT's performance is becoming a more prevalent discussion topic in general, which is good. I feel more and more people are watching and judging their performance, no doubt helped by interactions via social media. Your pessimistic view is of course a possible outcome, but I hope and believe not. Too much effort has been put into opening waterways. But you're right to say we should all encourage and promote this issue, and apply such pressure as we can. Rog I hope your right Rog, because having more public scrutiny of CaRT's actions seems to be the only way. I am a naturally optimistic person, so any pessimism I might have comes from personal experience. The speed with which The property is being sold off is quite alarming to me, as once it's gone it's gone for ever. I know if we are going to stop the destruction of the waterways as a network, then we are all going to have to get active. Whilst I know it's not the solution, I think emailing mp's etc, at least lets them know there is a wider public interest than just the iwa.
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Post by NigelMoore on Feb 10, 2018 17:14:08 GMT
Please start talking to people about the state of the waterways and what CaRT are getting up to, email your mp and the minister responsible for the waterways. Basically it's time to get active if you want this lifestyle we all enjoy to continue. There are also both the Prime Minister and the Patron of CaRT to write to. Frankly, individual examples of such correspondence will be effectively ignored, but if and when significant numbers wrote to them all with the same concerns, it could begin to have some impact. By way of example, these are examples from my own correspondence back in 2013 It can be seen that nobody was interested. Realising the futility of complaining to either Police or the Charities Commission, I also wrote a more general, lengthier analysis of the first year of CaRT’s performance, and sent to all members of the Lords Scrutiny Committee re: the Public Bodies Bill and outcomes. That, at least, provoked a single reply from one of the members, asking for a hard copy to be posted to the House of Lords. It might seem from all that, that such correspondence is futile – and so it is, as a stand-alone effort – but as I say, when sufficient numbers of complaints/recommendations are received, they have no choice but to take notice. My fear is that the current mind-set amongst boaters is apathetic optimism; it takes large numbers to make a difference, unless there is some Parliamentary investigation which individuals can contribute to.
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Post by thebfg on Feb 10, 2018 18:19:21 GMT
Michael Whitbread is my local mp.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2018 18:23:45 GMT
I would have thought a slow car crash would be OK. Bit of a dent in the bumper perhaps a little bit of aggrevation but overall no real damage.
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Post by kris on Feb 10, 2018 19:19:30 GMT
I would have thought a slow car crash would be OK. Bit of a dent in the bumper perhaps a little bit of aggrevation but overall no real damage. Okay then, they are running it into the ground and selling it to the scrapers, is that better for you. What I meant by slow car crash is we are all witnessing it right in front of us the decline of the network.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2018 19:40:23 GMT
Its ok kris I was having a giggle. You meant a slow motion car crash.
And I think you are right. I've assumed this was going to happen ever since CRT was formed. It doesn't surprise me at all but I don't think there is much that can be done about it. Vested interests are too powerful. Anyone attempting to make a positive difference is pissing into the wind.
Is this too defeatist?
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Post by thebfg on Feb 10, 2018 21:05:10 GMT
Michael Whitbread is my local mp. Can't find him on Google. I think he's given you a false name. Blooming phone. Whitehead
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Post by bodger on Feb 10, 2018 21:28:35 GMT
I don't have sufficient experience to judge the state of the waterways throughout the country (as opposed to the parts in my corner of England), but if what is being alleged (specifically that the system is deteriorating through lack of maintenance, which affects all bona fide boating enthusiasts - as opposed to linear floating housing occupiers) then I would expect those with the largest vested interests (i.e. the boat hire companies and marina operators) would be shouting with the loudest voices. .................... is this actually happening?
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Post by kris on Feb 10, 2018 21:37:21 GMT
Its ok kris I was having a giggle. You meant a slow motion car crash. And I think you are right. I've assumed this was going to happen ever since CRT was formed. It doesn't surprise me at all but I don't think there is much that can be done about it. Vested interests are too powerful. Anyone attempting to make a positive difference is pissing into the wind. Is this too defeatist? yes it is a little bit defeatist because it means any action feels futile. Where as I don't believe this, I realise that a small group of empowered people can alter the outcome. I've been involved in numerous direct action campaigns that have had positive outcome. Let me ask you a hypothetical question, if you where a despot ruler and wanted to ensure the longevity of your rule. Which attitude amongst the general populace would suit you most? An air of defeatism, where people don't think its worth doing anything or a group of empowered people who go about creating the future they want to be part of?
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Post by fred on Feb 10, 2018 21:39:52 GMT
If you aren't happy join NABO. It is very easy to influence NABO and so get CRT to acheive what you want
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Post by thebfg on Feb 10, 2018 21:52:42 GMT
Alan Whitehead MP for Southampton Simon Skinner supermarket villain It is. You can see I have a lot of support for them. He's labour so I've never voted for him anyway
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Post by kris on Feb 10, 2018 22:52:49 GMT
If you aren't happy join NABO. It is very easy to influence NABO and so get CRT to acheive what you want you are having a laugh aren't you Fred?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2018 0:17:00 GMT
If you aren't happy join NABO. It is very easy to influence NABO and so get CRT to acheive what you want The only thing NABO influence is the egos of its committee. They have no influence whatsoever over crt.
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