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Post by Clinton Cool on Feb 10, 2018 12:32:02 GMT
Haven't posted on here for a while, hope I haven't missed too much!
I'm in Indonesia, an issue has cropped up with one of my rental houses. Damp and mould in the kitchen which is a small extension with no heating. My rip of agent has quoted 525 squids to install an electric heater after the paintwork is sorted. This seems like a total rip off as I can get a heater to suit this size of room for 80 quid delivered.
My question to any sparkies out there: Would fitting a heater that is plugged in rather than wired in permanently break any regulations? I'd guess not otherwise they wouldn't be offered for sale with a plug fitted but want to be sure, before I get a mate to screw it to the wall for the cost of a couple of pints.
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Post by kris on Feb 10, 2018 12:35:27 GMT
Isn't your "mate" an electrician? Can't he tell you?
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Post by JohnV on Feb 10, 2018 13:10:38 GMT
if it is plug and socket you don't need an electrician
if the property is in the UK and has the standard 32A ring main it should be fine
(you can run 2, 3Kw heaters on a ring, 3, 2Kw heaters or 6, 1Kw heaters) if the heater is 2Kw or less it is very unlikely to cause any problems as you could plug in an electric kettle to that circuit and still not overload.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2018 13:28:54 GMT
Damp kitchen with no heating ? Sounds like a grim place to live.
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Post by Clinton Cool on Feb 10, 2018 15:37:27 GMT
Cheers for the replies, I'll order the heater. The house isn't in the most desirable area but apart from lack of heating in the kitchen it's in pretty good order. New central heating boiler, new windows throughout, new carpets and fully decorated before this tenant moved in. Ideally I'd have extended the central heating to include the kitchen but the gas man I consulted said the configuration made it impossible.
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Post by The Lockie on Feb 10, 2018 16:51:13 GMT
Not sure about this but you may want to check. If it is in a business premises,which ad you have an agent and rent it out it may be, you may find it needs to be PAT tested annually if it has a plug on it. Hard wired to a fused outlet doesn’t need this
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Post by JohnV on Feb 10, 2018 17:17:05 GMT
Not sure about this but you may want to check. If it is in a business premises,which ad you have an agent and rent it out it may be, you may find it needs to be PAT tested annually if it has a plug on it. Hard wired to a fused outlet doesn’t need this not sure about the regulations re PAT, hotels require it but I don't know about rented accommodation |
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Post by Jim on Feb 10, 2018 17:24:49 GMT
I have a few renters myself. Been told that black mould is usually the result of condensation, in turn a result of not enough ventilation. I've solved the problem in a couple of houses by fitting a positive pressure ventilator into the upstairs stairwell ceiling. It takes relatively dry air from the loft and trickle feeds it continuously into the house. You can tell tenants to open windows till you are blue in the face, but they won't listen, they prefer to whine about black mould. Cost 250/300 + fitting.
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Post by patty on Feb 10, 2018 17:55:07 GMT
My cottage very damp..I brought a dehumidifier which worked ok until it was nicked....Ive not bothered to buy another ..its ok when the Rayburn lit and I now leave solid fuel rads in there on timers when I go away and leave cupboard doors open so air can circulate..
My daughters rental had damp issue..the tenants were drying washing inside and obviously mildew grew so just check they are not drying their undies in the kitchen!
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Post by Jim on Feb 10, 2018 18:00:09 GMT
I would have increased their rent to cover that. Well, you might, they might leave, then it takes a couple of months to get a new tenant, you lose 1k. Bear in mind it's fit and forget, no regular black mould removal and repainting. They pay for the electrickery to run it. |
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Post by Jim on Feb 10, 2018 18:05:47 GMT
My cottage very damp..I brought a dehumidifier which worked ok until it was nicked....Ive not bothered to buy another ..its ok when the Rayburn lit and I now leave solid fuel rads in there on timers when I go away and leave cupboard doors open so air can circulate.. My daughters rental had damp issue..the tenants were drying washing inside and obviously mildew grew so just check they are not drying their undies in the kitchen! the pp ventilator works great in this situation, they can't turn it off. First one I fitted was in a solid wall stone house, the tenant couldn't afford to heat it properly, there were several areas of damp, esp. in rooms he wasn't heating. The damp wallpaper dried out within a couple of weeks, so dry it went crispy. It's been fine since. |
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Post by patty on Feb 10, 2018 18:24:41 GMT
whats a pp ventilator..yeah know theres google but Im on here now...
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Post by thebfg on Feb 10, 2018 18:29:01 GMT
whats a pp ventilator..yeah know theres google but Im on here now... No idea but we have extractor in our flat. It pulls damp air from kitchen and bathroom and mixes it with dry air from other rooms and pumps it back in somewhere. We dry all our washing indoors and never have a damp or condensation problem. |
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Post by patty on Feb 10, 2018 20:28:45 GMT
whats a pp ventilator..yeah know theres google but Im on here now... No idea but we have extractor in our flat. It pulls damp air from kitchen and bathroom and mixes it with dry air from other rooms and pumps it back in somewhere. We dry all our washing indoors and never have a damp or condensation problem. that sounds ok..not got any extractor thingys..wonder if that would help the damp...actually scrub that idea...Ive bin looking at Marina flats..near boats...Im quite taken with letting horror house go. |
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Post by Jim on Feb 11, 2018 18:27:20 GMT
whats a pp ventilator..yeah know theres google but Im on here now... I'd called it by its full name earlier, positive pressure ventilator. There are some expensive ones that warm the air coming in, went for the cheaper version. |
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