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Post by Telemachus on Feb 22, 2018 11:59:04 GMT
I see CRT finally have realised that with Minworth closed and drained, there is no flow down from the BCN to the Curdworth flight. And thus today they have closed the Curdworth flight until the Minworth flight reopens 16th March. You would think they might have realised there would be a water issue when they first decided to close Minworth!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2018 12:07:26 GMT
I thought they were there permanently. I am sure we have seen many, many locks with a whole load of extra woodwork, and I was thinking the Wigan Flight of 21 was some of those. They have been there a while me thinks. |
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Post by lollygagger on Feb 22, 2018 12:16:33 GMT
I thought they were there permanently. I am sure we have seen many, many locks with a whole load of extra woodwork, and I was thinking the Wigan Flight of 21 was some of those. They have been there a while me thinks. All the timber in the picture is new including the bracing which will be removed. They were about to chainsaw to size some new sleeper size chunks down at the bottom that the bottom gates close against. All the paddle gear is brand spanking new too. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2018 12:17:32 GMT
Fair enough. The braces look older with green mildew or whatever and even considerable moss growth by the look of it.
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Post by lollygagger on Feb 22, 2018 12:18:25 GMT
I had to look twice and I was there! Photos were point and hope as it was too bright to see my cracked phone screen so I missed off the balance beams and the interesting things going on at the bottom. Pretty crap really, must try harder. The chap I spoke to confirmed that it's all new. Maybe it sat around unfitted for a few years? Most of it looked like it had been cleaned up with a plane. |
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Post by TonyDunkley on Feb 22, 2018 12:24:14 GMT
He was making a funny based on the presence of the bracing bars whilst the gates are fitted. Lovely looking bits of timber aren't they. Rog I think they're a permanent fixture now, Rog, to prevent the exceptionally deep gates from tending to twist and straining/loosening all the crossbeam tenons as the bottom of the gate closes on to the cill and the weight/momentum of the upper part of gate wants to keep going. |
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Post by lollygagger on Feb 22, 2018 12:25:50 GMT
He was making a funny based on the presence of the bracing bars whilst the gates are fitted. Lovely looking bits of timber aren't they. Rog I think they're a permanent fixture now, Rog, to prevent the exceptionally deep gates from tending to twist and straining/loosening all the crossbeam tenons as the bottom of the gate closes on to the cill and the weight/momentum of the upper part of gate wants to keep going. I stand corrected. |
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Post by lollygagger on Feb 22, 2018 12:29:15 GMT
I thought they were there permanently. I am sure we have seen many, many locks with a whole load of extra woodwork, and I was thinking the Wigan Flight of 21 was some of those. They have been there a while me thinks. Apologies, you're right, I zoomed in and I see what you mean +;Tony's confirming post. |
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Post by TonyDunkley on Feb 22, 2018 12:42:07 GMT
I see CRT finally have realised that with Minworth closed and drained, there is no flow down from the BCN to the Curdworth flight. And thus today they have closed the Curdworth flight until the Minworth flight reopens 16th March. You would think they might have realised there would be a water issue when they first decided to close Minworth! I think that criticism such as this when C&RT aren't here to defend themselves against it is totally out of order, . . . I'm sure that 'Nan' Dodington and 'emilounatic' will be most disappointed in you ! |
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Post by kris on Feb 22, 2018 12:46:34 GMT
I see CRT finally have realised that with Minworth closed and drained, there is no flow down from the BCN to the Curdworth flight. And thus today they have closed the Curdworth flight until the Minworth flight reopens 16th March. You would think they might have realised there would be a water issue when they first decided to close Minworth! I think that criticism such as this when C&RT aren't here to defend themselves against it is totally out of order, . . . I'm sure that 'Nan' Dodington and 'emilounatic' will be most disappointed in you ! The penny does seem to have dropped with Nick recently that CaRT might not have the best interest of boaters at heart. |
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Post by Telemachus on Feb 22, 2018 13:07:17 GMT
I see CRT finally have realised that with Minworth closed and drained, there is no flow down from the BCN to the Curdworth flight. And thus today they have closed the Curdworth flight until the Minworth flight reopens 16th March. You would think they might have realised there would be a water issue when they first decided to close Minworth! I think that criticism such as this when C&RT aren't here to defend themselves against it is totally out of order, . . . I'm sure that 'Nan' Dodington and 'emilounatic' will be most disappointed in you ! Yes dear. Have you forgotten your meds again? |
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Post by Telemachus on Feb 22, 2018 13:15:46 GMT
I think that criticism such as this when C&RT aren't here to defend themselves against it is totally out of order, . . . I'm sure that 'Nan' Dodington and 'emilounatic' will be most disappointed in you ! The penny does seem to have dropped with Nick recently that CaRT might not have the best interest of boaters at heart. Actually I think there is quite a lot of regionality in it. Here in the W Midlands we have a pretty sensible chap in charge who is receptive to boater input. However my experiences in other regions leads me to believe that we are perhaps very lucky. Our chap here does genuinely seem interested in boats and boating and trying to be helpful where he can.
The Minworth flight has been closed since 2/1/18, it is now 22/2/18 and I noticed the pound between Minworth and Curdworth is not significantly down (though it can't afford to be, as its pretty shallow in places!) however the long-ish pound below Curdworth top lock is dry, and to refill it and keep it full probably would take too much water out of the pound above, which can't be replaced. That pound below the top lock always seems a bit problematical even though the lock below it doesn't seem to leak much (must leak elsewhere). So with Minworth having been closed for around 8 weeks, with 3 weeks to run to opening, I suppose their "gamble" (which would depend on the rainfall levels) hasn't paid off and they have to close Curdworth. So when I think about it, they have probably done the right thing in keeping Curdworth open for as long as the water supply lasted.
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Post by kris on Feb 22, 2018 13:21:45 GMT
The penny does seem to have dropped with Nick recently that CaRT might not have the best interest of boaters at heart. Actually I think there is quite a lot of regionality in it. Here in the W Midlands we have a pretty sensible chap in charge who is receptive to boater input. However my experiences in other regions leads me to believe that we are perhaps very lucky. Our chap here does genuinely seem interested in boats and boating and trying to be helpful where he can.
The Minworth flight has been closed since 2/1/18, it is now 22/2/18 and I noticed the pound between Minworth and Curdworth is not significantly down (though it can't afford to be, as its pretty shallow in places!) however the long-ish pound below Curdworth top lock is dry, and to refill it and keep it full probably would take too much water out of the pound above, which can't be replaced. That pound below the top lock always seems a bit problematical even though the lock below it doesn't seem to leak much (must leak elsewhere). So with Minworth having been closed for around 8 weeks, with 3 weeks to run to opening, I suppose their "gamble" (which would depend on the rainfall levels) hasn't paid off and they have to close Curdworth. So when I think about it, they have probably done the right thing in keeping Curdworth open for as long as the water supply lasted.
Yes whatever Nicky, does this mean your still a CaRT apologist then? |
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Post by Telemachus on Feb 22, 2018 13:27:24 GMT
Actually I think there is quite a lot of regionality in it. Here in the W Midlands we have a pretty sensible chap in charge who is receptive to boater input. However my experiences in other regions leads me to believe that we are perhaps very lucky. Our chap here does genuinely seem interested in boats and boating and trying to be helpful where he can.
The Minworth flight has been closed since 2/1/18, it is now 22/2/18 and I noticed the pound between Minworth and Curdworth is not significantly down (though it can't afford to be, as its pretty shallow in places!) however the long-ish pound below Curdworth top lock is dry, and to refill it and keep it full probably would take too much water out of the pound above, which can't be replaced. That pound below the top lock always seems a bit problematical even though the lock below it doesn't seem to leak much (must leak elsewhere). So with Minworth having been closed for around 8 weeks, with 3 weeks to run to opening, I suppose their "gamble" (which would depend on the rainfall levels) hasn't paid off and they have to close Curdworth. So when I think about it, they have probably done the right thing in keeping Curdworth open for as long as the water supply lasted.
Yes whatever Nicky, does this mean your still a CaRT apologist then? It means that when they do something good, I applaud them. When they do something bad, I criticise them. In other words, I take each situation as it comes and don't react to everything they do with prejudice, bitterness and resentment regardless! |
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Post by TonyDunkley on Feb 22, 2018 13:30:42 GMT
I think that criticism such as this when C&RT aren't here to defend themselves against it is totally out of order, . . . I'm sure that 'Nan' Dodington and 'emilounatic' will be most disappointed in you ! The penny does seem to have dropped with Nick recently that CaRT might not have the best interest of boaters at heart. On top of their bad intentions toward boaters, and boats in general, it's their breathtaking incompetence that I find too much to take. The Leicester Cut has been plagued by water shortages and very low pounds for a good while now, particularly from the bottom of Foxton to Aylestone (King's Lock), with some really bad leaks from one or two pounds below Kilby Bridge. Simple logic and common sense dictates that the leak stopping process should start from the lowest level where serious leaks are causing problems, and then progress systematically uphill to finish on the locks/lengths at the highest level, it's a well proven procedure for scheduling maintenance and repairs that worked well for around some 200 years until the pillocks in charge at BWB/C&RT decided that overall responsibility for canal operation and maintenance was best left to some more pillocks sitting in front of computer terminals 'analyzing' meaningless data. Notwithstanding, however, Parry and his office chair polishing computer jockeys have arranged for an extensive programme of new gates, cills and gate re-lining work on all the worst of the leaking locks at . . Foxton ! . . . words fail me ! |
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