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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2018 12:26:09 GMT
Throughout the book (about salvage boats off New Foundland) there are references to severe storms at sea, and boats being obliged to "heave to" due to the severity of the seas. Can one of you rough water people explain this to me. I suspect it may be to do with dropping anchor or something, but I don't know. The descriptions of the work undertaken by the crew of Foundation Franklin is awe inspiring. Think I'll stay in my muddy ditches  Rog |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2018 12:35:45 GMT
Probably got this wrong but I thought it referred to taking whatever action was necessary to sit out the storm i.e if on open sea stop trying to continue the journey and position the ship to best cope with what ever was happening such as turning around and facing the waves.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2018 12:48:28 GMT
Yes, that's what I was thinking.
But I've nearly finished the book, and thought I ought to find out for sure before I do.
Rog
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Post by mouse on Mar 9, 2018 13:13:48 GMT
Heaving to
Generally carried out by the Rag and Stick brigade
In sailing, heaving to (to heave to and to be hove to) is a way of slowing a sailing boat's forward progress, as well as fixing the helm and sail positions so that the boat does not actively have to be steered. When a sloop is hove to, the jib is backed. This means that its windward sheet is tight holding the sail to windward. The mainsail sheet is often eased, or the mainsail reefed, to reduce forward movement, or 'fore-reaching'. The rudder is placed so that, should the boat make any forward movement, it will be turned into the wind, so as to prevent forward momentum building up.
During the ill-fated 1979 Fastnet race, of 300 yachts, 158 chose to adopt storm tactics; 86 'lay ahull', whereby the yacht adopts a 'beam on' attitude to the wind and waves; 46 ran before the wind under bare poles or trailing warps/sea anchors and 26 hove to. 100 yachts suffered knock downs, 77 rolled (that is turtled) at least once. Not one of the hove to yachts were capsized or suffered any serious damage.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2018 13:26:26 GMT
So for us ditch crawlers (some of the terms you used above are a mystery) it is ceasing to fight the wind and waves but just 'bobbing along' wherever it takes you? That's sort of the understanding I've had whilst reading. Rog (Love the 'rag and stick' description  ) |
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Post by Telemachus on Mar 9, 2018 13:39:03 GMT
So for us ditch crawlers (some of the terms you used above are a mystery) it is ceasing to fight the wind and waves but just 'bobbing along' wherever it takes you? That's sort of the understanding I've had whilst reading. Rog (Love the 'rag and stick' description ) Yes it’s way of keeping the boat into wind (which is best for riding big waves) and fairly upright with little speed. It’s a fairly stable condition. A bit more to it than “bobbing about”. |
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Post by mouse on Mar 9, 2018 18:54:24 GMT
Rag and stick is less confrontational than the merchant marine term for leisure sailors, WAFI’s.
Wind Assisted ‘’kin Idiots!
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Post by naughtyfox on Mar 9, 2018 19:17:26 GMT
Throughout the book (about salvage boats off New Foundland) there are references to severe storms at sea, and boats being obliged to "heave to" due to the severity of the seas. Can one of you rough water people explain this to me. It refers to vomiting all over the deck. |
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Post by IainS on Mar 9, 2018 19:22:03 GMT
As mouse has said, the jib is backed, i.e. the bit of string leading from the bottom of the sail is hauled to the side of the boat the wind is coming from. The sail then tries to turn the boat away from the wind. The rudder is also turned towards the wind (Note that the rudder points the opposite way to the tiller, or helm, hence this is usually described as "helm a lee") The rudder tries to turn the boat into wind, but can only do so if the boat has some forward movement on it.
The result is that the bow moves away from the wind, the boat starts moving, the rudder turns the bow back into wind, the boat slows and the whole cycle starts again. The end result depends on the boat and weather conditions; some may make some headway into the wind, but more usually the boat will move downwind, but at a slower rate than lying under bare poles. The waves are also are at an angle to the bow, which will be more secure than on the beam or on the stern.
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