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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2018 17:53:09 GMT
Just thinking about how crt could make some money so the system doesn't sink and get sold off to the parasites and asset strippers.
What do we think?
More paid-for moorings?
Restaurant or pub boats?
More wellbeing type signage?
There must be a way.
No idea what it is though !
I'm looking for blue sky thinking. In a very real way.
Don't just say "yeah yeah yeah"
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Post by naughtyfox on Apr 5, 2018 18:00:41 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2018 18:03:53 GMT
That's fowl. Using the wildlife to attract the public might work. What about "guess the weight of the scruffy boater"? £1 a go and anyone who gets within 100g of the true value gets to go aboard the boater's boat for a guided tour. |
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Post by TonyDunkley on Apr 5, 2018 18:24:10 GMT
Just thinking about how crt could make some money so the system doesn't sink and get sold off to the parasites and asset strippers. What do we think? More paid-for moorings? Restaurant or pub boats? More wellbeing type signage? There must be a way. No idea what it is though ! I'm looking for blue sky thinking. In a very real way. Don't just say "yeah yeah yeah" It's a bit too late for that, everything's already been handed over to a bunch of parasites and asset strippers, . . . in July 2012 ! |
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Post by kris on Apr 5, 2018 19:07:10 GMT
"Yeah yeah yeah"
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Post by lollygagger on Apr 5, 2018 19:36:21 GMT
They seem to think there's no hope without government funding.
Or put it another way, ignoring the waterways there's no hope in carrying on as they are without government funding.
Rather than try and maintain on a budget of entirely their income, which would mean less bods earning less money but keep maintaining things, it appears they'd rather keep their jobs, salaries, bonuses, cars as an unnegotiable base line and sod the waterways.
They have nothing further to sell the general public that would increase regular income.
So they have to do all the daft stuff, create the perception that vast swathes of the public are getting something valuable that can't be charged for and convince the government to hand over the dosh to fund it.
I think they're on a hiding to nothing frankly and should be making practical plans to maintain rather than chasing a hope of more funding that's beyond their control.
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Post by Allan on Apr 5, 2018 22:33:27 GMT
Just thinking about how crt could make some money so the system doesn't sink and get sold off to the parasites and asset strippers. What do we think? More paid-for moorings? Restaurant or pub boats? More wellbeing type signage? There must be a way. No idea what it is though ! I'm looking for blue sky thinking. In a very real way. Don't just say "yeah yeah yeah" C&RT claims it is making money. The problem is that this money is not being invested in the waterways. |
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Post by Stumpy on Apr 5, 2018 23:04:54 GMT
I'm looking for blue sky thinking. In a very real way. I do so hate these "Americanisms" Tell ya wot...I'll think outside the box for a while  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2018 7:13:30 GMT
They seem to think there's no hope without government funding. Or put it another way, ignoring the waterways there's no hope in carrying on as they are without government funding. Rather than try and maintain on a budget of entirely their income, which would mean less bods earning less money but keep maintaining things, it appears they'd rather keep their jobs, salaries, bonuses, cars as an unnegotiable base line and sod the waterways. They have nothing further to sell the general public that would increase regular income. So they have to do all the daft stuff, create the perception that vast swathes of the public are getting something valuable that can't be charged for and convince the government to hand over the dosh to fund it. I think they're on a hiding to nothing frankly and should be making practical plans to maintain rather than chasing a hope of more funding that's beyond their control. Bang on. |
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Post by thebfg on Apr 6, 2018 19:06:21 GMT
Its a good point. Mosy big business i know. Yes they are not a buisiness per se.
Anyway everyone else has had to make savings. Job cuts, no pau rises. Stopped expandong etc etc..
Sobthw question is not how they can raise money but what have CRT done to save money?
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Post by pearley on Apr 7, 2018 18:45:44 GMT
They could administer their moorings in a more business like way, move boats to maximise available lengths (they seem to have a policy that if a 45ft boat occupied a 55ft sssace then it is now a 46 ft mooring), advertise moorings when notice is given rather than when the old moorer has actually left. If they are going to have paid for moorings then charge a properprate for them, not give free electric away (Liverpool) because they cant be bothered to repair the card readers.
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Post by naughtyfox on Apr 7, 2018 19:19:40 GMT
Sobthw question is not how they can raise money but what have CRT done to save money? You don't need to save money when you can just slap a 7% increase on the licence fee, and claim it's "in line with inflation" (a blatant lie). Keep spending, I say, the punters will always pay up. And so it comes to pass - now April, and now the price hikes. |
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Post by naughtyfox on Apr 8, 2018 9:46:51 GMT
Perhaps CRT can dismiss their staff and offer new contracts at £2.46/hour ?? "RMT General Secretary Mick Cash said UK and Channel Island mariners were being put off from taking on jobs with the company because of the low wages. ‘UK and Channel Island seafarers cannot, and should not have to, compete with pay rates as low as £2.46 per hour. ‘With wages like that it is no wonder that between 1980 and 2016 the number of UK ratings [sailors] fell by over 60 per cent. There are 87,000 ratings’ jobs on ferries and other merchant vessels working from UK ports, with a vast majority paid below the UK national minimum wage. RMT is fighting to change this.’ However, Condor’s executive director Fran Collins has labelled the union’s comments as ‘absurd’ and says that her company complies fully with marine employment regulations. She said: ‘Condor Ferries is a proud and responsible employer and totally refutes the RMT’s absurd statements made in relation to our treatment of staff. ‘We fully comply with, and indeed exceed, domestic and international employment regulations covering the pay, terms and conditions and protection of all staff, which includes full compliance with the Maritime Labour Convention 2006.’ jerseyeveningpost.com/news/2018/03/16/some-ukrainian-ferry-staff-on-246-an-hour-says-rmt-union/guernseypress.com/news/2015/02/13/new-ship-liberation-is-all-about-quality-says-condor/www.itv.com/news/channel/2018-03-12/campaigners-call-for-condor-to-end-poverty-wages/ |
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Post by TonyDunkley on Apr 8, 2018 10:06:35 GMT
Perhaps CRT can dismiss their staff and offer new contracts at £2.46/hour ?? "RMT General Secretary Mick Cash said UK and Channel Island mariners were being put off from taking on jobs with the company because of the low wages. ‘UK and Channel Island seafarers cannot, and should not have to, compete with pay rates as low as £2.46 per hour. ‘With wages like that it is no wonder that between 1980 and 2016 the number of UK ratings [sailors] fell by over 60 per cent. There are 87,000 ratings’ jobs on ferries and other merchant vessels working from UK ports, with a vast majority paid below the UK national minimum wage. RMT is fighting to change this.’ However, Condor’s executive director Fran Collins has labelled the union’s comments as ‘absurd’ and says that her company complies fully with marine employment regulations. She said: ‘Condor Ferries is a proud and responsible employer and totally refutes the RMT’s absurd statements made in relation to our treatment of staff. ‘We fully comply with, and indeed exceed, domestic and international employment regulations covering the pay, terms and conditions and protection of all staff, which includes full compliance with the Maritime Labour Convention 2006.’ jerseyeveningpost.com/news/2018/03/16/some-ukrainian-ferry-staff-on-246-an-hour-says-rmt-union/guernseypress.com/news/2015/02/13/new-ship-liberation-is-all-about-quality-says-condor/www.itv.com/news/channel/2018-03-12/campaigners-call-for-condor-to-end-poverty-wages/The Trustees could put Parry and the rest of the wankers that make up C&RT's 'top' management on £2.46 an hour, but that would still leave them being paid far more than they're worth. |
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