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Post by Jim on Apr 20, 2018 9:36:50 GMT
It's been obvious for a long whil that the only solution to not having a hard border is to be in the single market, despite all the dreams fantasies and downright lies of the brexit bulldog and his chums😝. The EU have just reiterated it. 😂😂😂 Just prior to that the Lords passed a resounding fart to Tezzer and her cronies. 😋 Time will tell. Things are looking up.
Twat!
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Post by JohnV on Apr 20, 2018 12:49:57 GMT
It's been obvious for a long whil that the only solution to not having a hard border is to be in the single market, Twat! why ? It's the EU that wants the border not the UK, If it is so important to them let them do it .... and pay for it. |
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Post by Gone on Apr 20, 2018 12:57:29 GMT
It's been obvious for a long whil that the only solution to not having a hard border is to be in the single market, Twat! why ? It's the EU that wants the border not the UK, If it is so important to them let them do it .... and pay for it. Maybe that's why the UK gov't seems fairly relaxed about the boarder as they don't have any intention of building and policing a border and will leave it to the South to manage. |
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Post by kris on Apr 20, 2018 13:04:13 GMT
As things tend to be cheaper in the north, there will be a lot of pissed of people in the south if the border is reinstated. I've got a friend in the republic who regularly makes the journey for a few barrels of kerosene.
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Post by bodger on Apr 20, 2018 20:02:16 GMT
why ? It's the EU that wants the border not the UK, If it is so important to them let them do it .... and pay for it. Maybe that's why the UK gov't seems fairly relaxed about the boarder as they don't have any intention of building and policing a border and will leave it to the South to manage. do you have any experience of the border arrangements prior to 1993 (when free transit of goods was allowed)? it was almost invisible then and could be almost invisible in the future ....... a few flying squad customs officers (and during the Troubles there was also an odd army checkpoint here and there). in practice the border will be through the Irish Sea - passport control and limited customs checks at the UK ferry ports and airports. |
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Post by peterboat on Apr 20, 2018 20:41:08 GMT
I served for well over 3 years in NI and there was no hard border, Dave who worked for customs and excise said it was only lightly patrolled in the 60s and 70s, and their was an agreement between the two governments since the split between the two countries.
As John says if its so important to the EU let them sort it! As for the Lords they have no power the Government can resubmit the item three times and it goes through regardless, end of issue Lords bypassed
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Post by naughtyfox on Apr 21, 2018 6:10:04 GMT
Why not just give the whole of Ireland back to the Irish? Pump in a lot of cash at first to make them happy, apologise for all the nasty things England has done to them over the centuries, deport the religious nutters and corrupt Irish politicians, and then perhaps Ireland and England (with its sidekicks Scotland and Wales) can get along all friendly like.
Ireland will never be wealthy, it's a barren landscape with little minerals - just farming and fishing - so I think it would be nice to be kind to them and leave them to enjoy life.
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Post by bodger on Apr 21, 2018 7:33:33 GMT
Dear Foxy,
Barren Landscape.
You are welcome to visit Ireland and experience the truly lovely and rich landscape that exists in so much of the island. However I suggest you avoid the peat belt in the 'Midlands' and the much admired (for what reason I cannot imagine) but unrewarding parts of the west coast such as Co. Clare and Connemara. The remainder of the island is a joy, providing a huge variety of environments. In Co. Donegal alone you can experience rich farming lands, highland moors, lakeland perspectives just as pretty as the English Lake District, rocky coastline akin to North Cornwall and open sandy bays that put much of the French Riviera to shame.
regards,
Bodger
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Post by peterboat on Apr 21, 2018 8:45:40 GMT
Dear Foxy, Barren Landscape.You are welcome to visit Ireland and experience the truly lovely and rich landscape that exists in so much of the island. However I suggest you avoid the peat belt in the 'Midlands' and the much admired (for what reason I cannot imagine) but unrewarding parts of the west coast such as Co. Clare and Connemara. The remainder of the island is a joy, providing a huge variety of environments. In Co. Donegal alone you can experience rich farming lands, highland moors, lakeland perspectives just as pretty as the English Lake District, rocky coastline akin to North Cornwall and open sandy bays that put much of the French Riviera to shame. regards, Bodger You are so right I loved the place and have been back on holiday since I left the ARMY |
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Post by naughtyfox on Apr 21, 2018 9:45:18 GMT
Yes, I have Ireland on my list of places to visit, but I always thought it was a bit 'bare' on the minerals side, and the Irish have always seemed to be poor - that's why so many emigrated to America, right? Oh - and many to England. Perhaps Ireland has always been held back because of Politics (and stunted by Religion). Have now made another vote 'visit Ireland' to bump it up - we have thought about having a drive round Ireland, just have to find the time. A week in Summer 2019, perhaps. But then, here's a question, how comes you rarely see 'Made in Ireland/Eire/Northern Ireland' on products? I did buy some chocolates 3 weeks ago from Tesco's that were Made in Ireland:  The Witch said they were OK. She gave me one. |
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Post by bodger on Apr 21, 2018 18:04:30 GMT
perhaps you are unaware that Ireland has (had?) a so-called 'Tiger Economy'. Their natural resources are the people, not the stuff in the ground.
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Post by JohnV on Apr 21, 2018 18:15:37 GMT
perhaps you are unaware that Ireland has (had?) a so-called 'Tiger Economy'. Their natural resources are the people, not the stuff in the ground. I believe that there is commercial deposits of various minerals mined in Ireland. In fact Ireland has over 30% of Europe's zinc production and over 10% of it's lead there are also commercial gold and silver deposits currently being worked |
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Post by Jim on Apr 22, 2018 11:33:30 GMT
Tess said this morning "we may have to accept staying in the customs union". Bring it on!
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Post by naughtyfox on Apr 22, 2018 12:23:00 GMT
As you're here, Jim, unusually I'm posting something in The Rugby Thread - see if you can spot it!
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Post by Gone on Apr 22, 2018 19:30:34 GMT
Tess said this morning "we may have to accept staying in the customs union". Bring it on! If we stay in the customs union we will pay more than we do now into the EU, will have to accept free movement of people, comply with all future regs, not make our own trade agreements and have no vote or opt out on new regs, why is that good?  ? |
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