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Post by Mr Stabby on Apr 25, 2018 19:05:59 GMT
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Post by phil70 on Apr 25, 2018 23:17:56 GMT
So this fabulous boat doesn't have a pram canopy on the stern but a "cratch cover at the back"
Phil
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Post by naughtyfox on Apr 26, 2018 7:05:15 GMT
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Post by bargemast on Apr 26, 2018 7:21:01 GMT
It's good to see such a happy Dan again.
I've always admired this young guys enthousiasm, and liked the videos he made.
There aren't all that many young people like him around, he's living a fairly simple life and isn't looking for more.
Peter.
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Post by bills on Apr 26, 2018 15:07:19 GMT
Any excuse to wheel this out again...
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Post by Mr Stabby on Apr 29, 2018 8:08:30 GMT
Out of interest, I've been reading a couple of Dan's posts on his new purchase. He bought it without a survey, but it was very cheap and his logic is that the money he saved was more than enough to pay for any work which might need doing, up to and including overplating. However, somebody has left this comment on Facebook...
"Without wanting to worry you too much: the boatyard owner where I had the survey done for my boat said that boats that were built after a certain year (was it 2000?) can't be overplated but instead parts have to be cut out and replaced which is a big effort. But I'm sure your boat is in good condition as it should be after only 22 years".
I know cutting out steel and replacing it will always be better practice than overplating, but is this statement true, and if so why?
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Post by JohnV on Apr 29, 2018 8:42:11 GMT
To the best of my knowledge there is no requirement for private boats to be cut out and replaced rather than doubled, although it is a better, if more expensive repair.
Commercial vessels however are required to be repaired in this fashion. (class vessels)
If there is any insistence on "cut out and replace" on private boats I would suggest that it may be a particular insurance company insisting* rather than regulation.
* never hear of it though
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2018 8:45:36 GMT
I've never heard that before, and it was never mentioned when I was discussing 'what ifs' with Roger Farrington at Braunston.
Over plating seems to be the default setting as it were, unless you specify a more detailed job.
But I'm sure a grown up will be along with a definitive answer.
Rog
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2018 8:55:43 GMT
Sounds like bollocks to me.
A quick Google yields no results to confirm that little gem.
Letting in a new plate is the way to go on something interesting. There's a lot of work to do though.
One major advantage of cutting out and letting a new plate is the weight and consequently draft of the vessel remains unchanged.
A boat was lost on the Thames after a piss poor replate that left the air cooling vents too near the waterline.
Overplating is perfectly acceptable on old teabag Springers, Hancock and Lane etc etc.
It extends the service life, and if done correctly is a cost effective solution to keeping a teabag afloat.
It's 8 years since I overplated a 45' H&L, an experience that has affected me for life!
We ditched a lot of the underfloor ballast to get the waterline correct, she had 6mm x 8' x 2' plates all the way around, being shallow draft it was the most economical way of doing it, lop a sheet in half, two for the price if one.
An extra rubbing strake concealed the top seam quite nicely.
I should think the old girl will need the baseplate and counter doing now, but seeing as she was sold by my mum and stepfather a few years back she's no longer my problem!
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Post by Delta9 on Apr 29, 2018 9:12:09 GMT
Out of interest, I've been reading a couple of Dan's posts on his new purchase. He bought it without a survey, but it was very cheap and his logic is that the money he saved was more than enough to pay for any work which might need doing, up to and including overplating. However, somebody has left this comment on Facebook... "Without wanting to worry you too much: the boatyard owner where I had the survey done for my boat said that boats that were built after a certain year (was it 2000?) can't be overplated but instead parts have to be cut out and replaced which is a big effort. But I'm sure your boat is in good condition as it should be after only 22 years". I know cutting out steel and replacing it will always be better practice than overplating, but is this statement true, and if so why? Some people think that boats with spray foam type insulation can't be overplated, they may be referring to this. |
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