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Post by Telemachus on May 28, 2018 17:47:13 GMT
This is strange, I don’t see Kris and any of those. He’s just one of the last around who cares about the world. One of the few on CWF in fact. Now it seems one of the last on this silly muppet of a forum. it very telling that the people who delight in calling me names for being aware of what's going on, don't actually live on boats so won't be so effected by a change in the legislation for boats without home moorings. What change? CRT can’t feasibly ban CCing, there are a lot of such people and there is nowhere near enough moorings for them all. What are they going to do with all the boats and boaters for whom a mooring simply isn’t available? Crush them?(and sell the boats). You make yourself miserable and ill with all this catstrophising and fretting about fantasy worst case scenarios. You will be dead from stress before CCing is banned. What is likely is some action to control CCing in central London. They have the congestion charge for vehicles, something similar for boats seems not only inevitable, but also a good idea in order to reclaim the canals of London for leisure use. |
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Post by kris on May 28, 2018 17:55:33 GMT
I can hear that squeaking again.
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Post by Jim on May 28, 2018 17:57:44 GMT
I can hear that squeaking again. Do mice eat dry poo? |
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2018 18:14:07 GMT
it very telling that the people who delight in calling me names for being aware of what's going on, don't actually live on boats so won't be so effected by a change in the legislation for boats without home moorings. What change? CRT can’t feasibly ban CCing, there are a lot of such people and there is nowhere near enough moorings for them all. What are they going to do with all the boats and boaters for whom a mooring simply isn’t available? Crush them?(and sell the boats). You make yourself miserable and ill with all this catstrophising and fretting about fantasy worst case scenarios. You will be dead from stress before CCing is banned. What is likely is some action to control CCing in central London. They have the congestion charge for vehicles, something similar for boats seems not only inevitable, but also a good idea in order to reclaim the canals of London for leisure use. Is Kris in London then? I thought he was just minding his own business in the middle of nowhere... |
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Post by naughtyfox on May 28, 2018 18:23:39 GMT
And anyway, 'bridge-hopping' isn't 'Continuous Cruising'. It is taking the piss doing a couple of miles one way, and a couple of miles back, or just hanging round the London area. How about CRT, for those 'continuously cruising', set a time limit for London - say one month? If you haven't entered and left within a month (it only takes a week to cross London), then a mooring charge will get slapped on you, whether you have a mooring or not. At London Mooring Prices, the piss-takers will soon bugger orf.
How about making renting your boat out illegal? Either you stick it in a mooring in London, or you are on board whilst navigating through London. In and out - welcome back after a month. Well, the Bridgewater Canal can do it, why not the London Mayor? He only has to say "this is part and parcel of living in a big city, get used to it" and everyone will obey, inshallah.
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Post by Telemachus on May 28, 2018 18:25:19 GMT
What change? CRT can’t feasibly ban CCing, there are a lot of such people and there is nowhere near enough moorings for them all. What are they going to do with all the boats and boaters for whom a mooring simply isn’t available? Crush them?(and sell the boats). You make yourself miserable and ill with all this catstrophising and fretting about fantasy worst case scenarios. You will be dead from stress before CCing is banned. What is likely is some action to control CCing in central London. They have the congestion charge for vehicles, something similar for boats seems not only inevitable, but also a good idea in order to reclaim the canals of London for leisure use. Is Kris in London then? I thought he was just minding his own business in the middle of nowhere... No he is not in London and he probably is in the middle of nowhere. Which is why he shouldn’t be shortening his life by stressful catastrophisation! |
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2018 18:53:41 GMT
Is Kris in London then? I thought he was just minding his own business in the middle of nowhere... No he is not in London and he probably is in the middle of nowhere. Which is why he shouldn’t be shortening his life by stressful catastrophisation! Nothing wrong with caring about the world though Nick. It’s a good job many throughout the world do (did)? I will say that there is enough to worry most of us closer to home to keep us busy (that’s been programmed in). If you can’t look after your friends and family how can you look after the world? Actually if you can’t look after yourself, the same rule apples...blah blah... Anyway I digress. If we realy want to enjoy the freedom to explore the full canal network in the future, we need to work together...and stop wasting time on stuff which has no bearing. The current game is to make distractions.and it’s working... |
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Post by Telemachus on May 28, 2018 19:05:32 GMT
No he is not in London and he probably is in the middle of nowhere. Which is why he shouldn’t be shortening his life by stressful catastrophisation! Nothing wrong with caring about the world though Nick. It’s a good job many throughout the world do (did)? I will say that there is enough to worry most of us closer to home to keep us busy (that’s been programmed in). If you can’t look after your friends and family how can you look after the world? Actually if you can’t look after yourself, the same rule apples...blah blah... Anyway I digress. If we realy want to enjoy the freedom to explore the full canal network in the future, we need to work together...and stop wasting time on stuff which has no bearing. The current game is to make distractions.and it’s working... There is nothing wrong with caring about the world. In fact it is commendable. But it is a waste of rations to care about stuff that doesn’t actually exist. Like the Archers for example. Or some fantasy that the third reich of CRT are out to get Kris and cart (pun intended) him off to a concentration camp for (former) live aboards. 10 years hard labour with a constant tape loop extolling the virtues of a mooring and a house blaring over the PA. |
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2018 19:20:25 GMT
Nothing wrong with caring about the world though Nick. It’s a good job many throughout the world do (did)? I will say that there is enough to worry most of us closer to home to keep us busy (that’s been programmed in). If you can’t look after your friends and family how can you look after the world? Actually if you can’t look after yourself, the same rule apples...blah blah... Anyway I digress. If we realy want to enjoy the freedom to explore the full canal network in the future, we need to work together...and stop wasting time on stuff which has no bearing. The current game is to make distractions.and it’s working... There is nothing wrong with caring about the world. In fact it is commendable. But it is a waste of rations to care about stuff that doesn’t actually exist. Like the Archers for example. Or some fantasy that the third reich of CRT are out to get Kris and cart (pun intended) him off to a concentration camp for (former) live aboards. 10 years hard labour with a constant tape loop extolling the virtues of a mooring and a house blaring over the PA. What stuff do you think Kris cares about which you think doesn’t exist then? |
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Post by Telemachus on May 28, 2018 19:30:00 GMT
There is nothing wrong with caring about the world. In fact it is commendable. But it is a waste of rations to care about stuff that doesn’t actually exist. Like the Archers for example. Or some fantasy that the third reich of CRT are out to get Kris and cart (pun intended) him off to a concentration camp for (former) live aboards. 10 years hard labour with a constant tape loop extolling the virtues of a mooring and a house blaring over the PA. What stuff do you think Kris cares about which you think doesn’t exist then? That CRT has an agenda to eliminate all live aboard CCers. |
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Post by kris on May 28, 2018 20:17:23 GMT
It is rude to talk about people like they are not there.
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Post by Telemachus on May 28, 2018 20:18:42 GMT
did something squeak?
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2018 20:18:45 GMT
For my part, I'm having a terrific time exploring the L&L.
However, there are very real frustrations with appallingly poor management demonstrated by C&RT that it is impossible to ignore if you're on board.
The rebranding, Minworth and Marple debacles are very recent examples.
It is getting difficult not to be concerned whether you'll be able to complete a planned journey, with repeated closures of bridges and locks.
Of course none of this worries me one jot when I'm not on board, but that doesn't mean the concern and frustrations are not real to a live aboard....which includes myself and even Nick when he's boating.
It is too easy to dismiss very real concerns about the future as paranoia.
We have to enjoy our life afloat, of course, and not miss the enjoyment of today by worrying about tomorrow.
But there is no doubt that more and more boaters are becoming concerned about the future of the waterways and the navigation authority's misdirection of available funds.
Rog
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2018 20:22:38 GMT
... and boaters for whom a mooring simply isn’t available? Crush them?(and sell the boats). Maybe apolloduck should have a secondhand boater section. Worth selling them rather than crushing them I would have thought. It could be called "secondhand boater's" |
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Post by Telemachus on May 28, 2018 20:23:55 GMT
For my part, I'm having a terrific time exploring the L&L. However, there are very real frustrations with appallingly poor management demonstrated by C&RT that it is impossible to ignore if you're on board. The rebranding, Minworth and Marple debacles are very recent examples. It is getting difficult not to be concerned whether you'll be able to complete a planned journey, with repeated closures of bridges and locks. Of course none of this worries me one jot when I'm not on board, but that doesn't mean the concern and frustrations are not real to a live aboard....which includes myself and even Nick when he's boating. It is too easy to dismiss very real concerns about the future as paranoia. We have to enjoy our life afloat, of course, and not miss the enjoyment of today by worrying about tomorrow. But there is no doubt that more and more boaters are becoming concerned about the future of the waterways and the navigation authority's misdirection of available funds. Rog No, I can share with you and possibly krissypoos (if he wasn’t too busy proclaiming the end of the world) a concern for the level of maintenance and general competence of CRT to keep the system open. But that is in no way related to an imaginary desire to cull all liveaboards. In fact the exact opposite is demonstrably true - on the Scottish canals, the authority is actively promoting living on the canals whilst allowing the infrastructure to fail big time. Their logic being that people who live on the cut don’t really want to move around, they want to stay near their place of work/schools/friends etc. |
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