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Post by JohnV on Jun 2, 2018 15:40:12 GMT
This morning I tripped on one of the flooring panels in the saloon ..... it was sicking up about 3/8" at one end (boards are approx 8' x 2' of 1" ply) Odd, because this is the first time in 20 odd years one of the main panels has moved although they are only held down by two screws at one end .... just to stop any movement........ Obviously this needed investigating !!! Taking up the first panel I found that the first two frames (aftermost) were dry but the next ones had water lying in them. The second panel going forward, all the frames were wet. (The next section is the other side of a full bulkhead and this was bone dry) All the frames that were wet were original riveted plates the rest were welded replacements from 20 odd years ago. Although my survey last summer had shown the hull to be in excellent condition this was worrying and I was wondering about a weeping rivet. SAM_1362 by mudlarker2, on Flickr Most of today has been using the wet and dry to suck up about 100 litres of water, judging by the surface rust it must have been lying there for a long time which I thought odd because I would have expected it to have tracked back to near the engine room bulkhead where there is a hatch and a sump for a pump. as taking the ground twice a day I would have expected that to have worked a weeping rivet so that it would keep going ..... this just looked like there had been just an occasional leak that stopped again. Over he last (fwd) frame there is a cabinet housing an A/C unit (which has not been used for 12 or 14 years and is scheduled for removal ......one day) In the base of the housing is a small storage cabinet and I opened that up and found everything in it was wet. Obviously the water had been coming in from above and not from the hull .... a great relief . Unfortunately however one of the boxes in the store were family photographs 95% of them ruined beyond any redemption. Many fortunately I scanned to disc a few years ago but some were not and are gone forever Some of the photographs go back 120/130 years so very sad ( The centre photo was my grandmother taken in the late 1800's ) SAM_1363 by mudlarker2, on Flickr
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Post by patty on Jun 2, 2018 15:53:17 GMT
Thats awful....I woz just sitting here thinking what a fab-u-lous day Ive had...sons friend whose a magician has visited, I've wombled over to the Worms head...behaved tad immaturely in that I overtook 11 out of 12 in front of me to arrive at far point second...Ive repaired broken shelf in house(super sticky glue), Im now sitting in summerhouse with gigantic glass vino whilst son and his friends cook my tea....... I hope it all resolves soon....
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Post by peterboat on Jun 2, 2018 16:05:47 GMT
Bugger John for a second I thought our cruise was in danger!! However I really am sorry about the pictures some stuff is so important yet has no value other than to you, and for you its irreplaceable
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2018 16:12:02 GMT
Chuck the aircon unit away ASAP and when you do so give it a slap and shout a rude word or two at it.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2018 16:26:34 GMT
Try to focus on the positives.
The hull's not leaking, and not all the photos were ruined.
Didn't really help did it.
Rog
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Post by JohnV on Jun 2, 2018 16:40:22 GMT
I was a bit upset about the photos ....... it is a bit of a shame but you carry too much baggage with you through life ...... and the ones not on computer are still somewhere in my memory.
I have just been up on deck and checked and found where the water had been getting in ...... the exhaust from the a/c vented through a 4" pipe on deck with a cover over to stop rain getting in ...... sometime (possibly when we had bad weather coming up) it has got damaged and there is a crack at the base of the vertical pipe where it exits the deck allowing rain water in !!!
I guess that taking out time has been forced upon me !!!
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Post by Jim on Jun 2, 2018 18:17:02 GMT
Bad news about the pics. Irreplaceable. What about a bottle of Captain Tolley's.... On a serious note, just come across something that would work semi permanent or longer, I got a pack of superglue with a bottle of filler powder. Squirt powder into crack, then apply superglue, it all sets solid. It's called Supa-Fix, www.everbuild.co.uk.
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Post by JohnV on Jun 2, 2018 19:10:45 GMT
Bad news about the pics. Irreplaceable. What about a bottle of Captain Tolley's.... On a serious note, just come across something that would work semi permanent or longer, I got a pack of superglue with a bottle of filler powder. Squirt powder into crack, then apply superglue, it all sets solid. It's called Supa-Fix, www.everbuild.co.uk. Thanks for the ideas Jim but I will get the grinder out tomorrow morning, flush it off and weld a steel patch over it ..... I'm sure I saw a disc of 6mm plate in the scrap bin in the yard
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Post by bargemast on Jun 2, 2018 20:13:28 GMT
Bad news about the pics. Irreplaceable. What about a bottle of Captain Tolley's.... On a serious note, just come across something that would work semi permanent or longer, I got a pack of superglue with a bottle of filler powder. Squirt powder into crack, then apply superglue, it all sets solid. It's called Supa-Fix, www.everbuild.co.uk. Thanks for the ideas Jim but I will get the grinder out tomorrow morning, flush it off and weld a steel patch over it ..... I'm sure I saw a disc of 6mm plate in the scrap bin in the yard I'm very sorry to hear about your missery John, but as I often say :"It could have been worse, and much more serious" too bad about the photos, I must have several very old family photos somewhere too, but wouldn't know where just now, and after your story I'm worried about them now.
About the round disc in the scrap bin, to patch the deck, wouldn't it be nicer to find a squarish piece of scrap, and cut a square out of the deck that you fill in, instead of covering with a patch, it's defenitely not much more work, and will look so much nicer and more professional.
Good luck with whatever you're going to do to it.
Peter.
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Post by dyertribe on Jun 2, 2018 20:41:51 GMT
Bugger John for a second I thought our cruise was in danger!! However I really am sorry about the pictures some stuff is so important yet has no value other than to you, and for you its irreplaceable If I’d known that they could have cooked extra and dropped it down......
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Post by peterboat on Jun 2, 2018 20:52:09 GMT
Thanks for the ideas Jim but I will get the grinder out tomorrow morning, flush it off and weld a steel patch over it ..... I'm sure I saw a disc of 6mm plate in the scrap bin in the yard I'm very sorry to hear about your missery John, but as I often say :"It could have been worse, and much more serious" too bad about the photos, I must have several very old family photos somewhere too, but wouldn't know where just now, and after your story I'm worried about them now.
About the round disc in the scrap bin, to patch the deck, wouldn't it be nicer to find a squarish piece of scrap, and cut a square out of the deck that you fill in, instead of covering with a patch, it's defenitely not much more work, and will look so much nicer and more professional.
Good luck with whatever you're going to do to it.
Peter.
Isnt their a Tommy Steel song loosely based on that round and square bit?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2018 22:10:17 GMT
Thanks for the ideas Jim but I will get the grinder out tomorrow morning, flush it off and weld a steel patch over it ..... I'm sure I saw a disc of 6mm plate in the scrap bin in the yard I'm very sorry to hear about your missery John, but as I often say :"It could have been worse, and much more serious" too bad about the photos, I must have several very old family photos somewhere too, but wouldn't know where just now, and after your story I'm worried about them now.
About the round disc in the scrap bin, to patch the deck, wouldn't it be nicer to find a squarish piece of scrap, and cut a square out of the deck that you fill in, instead of covering with a patch, it's defenitely not much more work, and will look so much nicer and more professional.
Good luck with whatever you're going to do to it.
Peter.
I'd be tempted to put a vent over the hole. Air is always nice to have. Unless its a high foot traffic area in which case welding a plate over it or filling it in would probably be better.
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Post by JohnV on Jun 3, 2018 4:58:55 GMT
I'm very sorry to hear about your missery John, but as I often say :"It could have been worse, and much more serious" too bad about the photos, I must have several very old family photos somewhere too, but wouldn't know where just now, and after your story I'm worried about them now.
About the round disc in the scrap bin, to patch the deck, wouldn't it be nicer to find a squarish piece of scrap, and cut a square out of the deck that you fill in, instead of covering with a patch, it's defenitely not much more work, and will look so much nicer and more professional.
Good luck with whatever you're going to do to it.
Peter.
I'd be tempted to put a vent over the hole. Air is always nice to have. Unless its a high foot traffic area in which case welding a plate over it or filling it in would probably be better. I do need to put some extra ventilation in Sabina but that unfortunately would be in the wrong place. I was never entirely happy about having a vent so close to the rail but the position of the a/c unit dictated. Somewhere on the extremely long "to do" list is the "fit two proper ship style ventilators amidships on expansion tank, completion date ..... one day"
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2018 5:03:22 GMT
Butt weld elbows make good boat vents. My barge has one 8 inch diameter elbow and 2 x 4 inch elbows which keep the engine room dry. Other boat has two 4 inch elbows for engine bay. Both same builder Pickwell and Arnold. A place near me has 4 inch diameter weld elbows for about a tenner each. Its easy to fit these and pipe the air down to floor level using plastic drainpipe. The front deck on my barge has two of these routed to low level which results in a nice flow of air across the floor.
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Post by patty on Jun 3, 2018 5:08:51 GMT
I only have a few old pics of bygone relatives...Little sis took most, sorted out what she wanted then ditched the rest ...I guess she didn't think the rest of us might have wanted some...I like old photos, they are quite telling of an age whereby smiling not permitted. I do have mum and dads wedding pic with mums old ring framed with it...I think thats my favourite...I refuse to allow that one out of the house. Old photos hold memories and my granddaughter is just getting to the age of being interested in family not here anymore.
I hope all soon gets sorted, water always finds a way.
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